Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: What kind of pets do creature handlers want
If all you can sell is nonch pets then your server is dramatically different from mine. I have been selling pets to MCH's at a rate that has me booked for days.
YamadaMan wrote:
CH mainly tame their own pets,
After each patch, things change. This last patch has significantly enhanced the capabilities of BE pets and has significantly downgraded what CH's can find in the wild.
As a MCH and aspiring BE, I can tell you that if a BE can reliably make a pet matching the following they can pretty much name their price with any MCH out there:
- light armour pet with decent resists (high kinetic)
- nice specials (strong poison and knockdown are my favourites)
- reasonable damage (say around 500, something like a gurreck)
- CL 35 maximum
Zaket wrote:
After each patch, things change. This last patch has significantly enhanced the capabilities of BE pets and has significantly downgraded what CH's can find in the wild.
As a MCH and aspiring BE, I can tell you that if a BE can reliably make a pet matching the following they can pretty much name their price with any MCH out there:
- light armour pet with decent resists (high kinetic)
- nice specials (strong poison and knockdown are my favourites)
- reasonable damage (say around 500, something like a gurreck)
- CL 35 maximum
It’s posts like this that make me wish SOE would hurry up and fix the most obvious and damaging bugs in the new BE system: people are already clamoring for their old Grauls back, this time in snazzy new skins. While there is nothing wrong with wanting only the best, the whole Creature/Creature level system was overhauled in the December publish to keep powerful pets in the hands of high-level Creature Handlers, and only high level ones. If you look in the wild, you would be hard pressed (if not asking the impossible) to find a light armored pet under level 40 - let alone one with the rest of the desirable properties you’re looking for. We simply shouldn’t be able to make pets this powerful, at only CL 35: other wise everyone would still be able to use their Maulers, and nothing would have changed.
You might want to consider taking a balanced approach - if you want those high resists, and maybe even armor, you’re going to be looking at low damage and cruddy specials - maybe even a hit to raw HAM points. If you just can’t live without the best of the best, aim for a higher level pet, and cram in all the goodness you could want: at CL 70 or so.
Again, there’s nothing wrong with wanting the best of the best, but you might want to be careful what you fork over those millions for - there’s a good chance it will be changed, and not likely for the better.
Yes CH tame there own till they see something a BE made that is better. On this, I was making better gurreck and rancor pre patch as far as ham and damage is concerned. Was over 12k hame on rancor and hitting close to 600 damage. This from a level 50 pet. CH want this big arse kimo and want it CL70. Everyone I have seen is not mych better and ofetn worse then the CL 50 I used to make. I no clue why I can't make the damage and power now orther then mixing up other critters DNA to try something better. We should only be able to make something better then wild, not alot better but better. I would have thought level 70 kimo would have 15k and 700-800 damage. I being asked time and time again "I want armor in cl23 pet, I read they can be made". Reply "I do not use exploits".
I have some coustomers that are patent. The know how it should work. They tell me "I like them stats and them stats, can you mix them for me? They a tad higher then I want and maybe you can drop them down 5 levels or keep them same level but better then wild." That is all we should be able to do. They like a cat cl 35, go get cl 35 DNA, dump it into a cat skin, toda a cl35 cat. Not like stats of kaado? (who does) sample something else anddump it into a kaado skin.
Imma make CL70 durnis, one CL70kimo and show in front of coronet's starport what a durni can do !!!
and after this, if anyone ask me for a kimo I'll say
/reply I can make you one, it's 500k. 50k for a durni with the same stats...
but I'm pretty sure I'll be millionnaire in no time ! lmao
YamadaMan wrote:
I don't want to make some fu**ing kimos ! wth ???
Imma make CL70 durnis, one CL70kimo and show in front of coronet's starport what a durni can do !!!
and after this, if anyone ask me for a kimo I'll say
/reply I can make you one, it's 500k. 50k for a durni with the same stats...
but I'm pretty sure I'll be millionnaire in no time ! lmao
Are you on Eclipse? When can I pick up my Durni? =)
I was hoping a for a good discussion to help our Bio engineers. I have been trying to get some bio engineered pets without a lot of success. Lowca seems to have 1 or 2 BE that have figured things out but they are booked for weeks. We seem to have lots of BE making pets that will not be useful in combat. I realize there are differences in what people want, but I hope a good discussion will help our BE understand what their potential customers are looking for.
Here is what I like in a pet (MCH since july) - when fighting low end mobs it does not matter what pet you use. The rubber meets the road on high end mobs. I have spent a lot of time fighting high end mobs and here is what I found.
Pet damage is insignificant compared to player damage. What I want in a pet is a tank who can stand up to the mob while I kill it. Pets without armor and with low resistances die very fast. I prefer using 2 cl 35 pets to 1 vl 60 pet. Kinetic resistance is the most useful one.
Specials that I like are defensive ones , such as intimidate, dizzy, stun, knockdown, etc. Dots are ok as well. Small fast body types are better then bigger ones that get stuck in trees all the time.
Other Creature Handlers may have other ideas, but this is what I would like to see.
I made about 150k in one day, selling non ch pets about 20k each
MCH here and X-BE. ( I wanted todo damage)
What I look for in a pet. I just need one Big monster of a pet. (not a kimo) If Dewbacks didnt run in combat I would only have them. But..
Looking for Armor, High Kin. Intemidate is great. Dizzy or knockdown is a plus but not nessary if its goign to take away from High Kin / armor. and as long as its CL 70 or just below I am happy. and of course High Ham. 12k is nice. Gurreck skin (so they can keep up with me)
I do have one post patchBE pet. And I was shocked at the Cl myself. Cl23 Dewback, No Armor, 10k health 7k action/mind 54 kin resists. 12 to the rest. Blind/strong poison for spec. no ranged. Not a bad mount at all.
Nargalatch skin & Gurrek skin
AR1
60% kinetic (dont' care about any others really, PvE only)
10-11k HAM
Intimidate + Strong poison specials
Damage 500+
CL 70 or less, it's not that important as long as I can continue to use the Narg aggressive skin once it's full grown (non-wookie here).
And if at all possible, something that won't friggin run around like a chicken without it's head. As a pure TKM with no ranged ability, that's a certain death sentence to both the pet and myself.
Right now as a master ch I'm trying to get a 3 pet combo... light armor, 40-60% kinetic resists,8-10k health and personally I don't care about damage or ranged but strong poison and strong disease if possible all at cl 23... I heard these were made with primarily Merek DNA just a third gen pet which is hard work, not an exploit... I already have a lvl 35 pet: light armor, 51% kinetic resist and a lvl 28 light armor, 40% kinetic resist which leaves room for my mount...
Personally I don't care if they did try to hamper the old system where everyone had a graul, this is my magic door to what I want... BEs were complianing understandably so when broken... Now that the professions is fixed or atleast better then it was too many are complaining that they are turning off their titles and upset people want Kimos... That's just stupidity... give the people what they want and make money off of it before the dev on a whim decides he doesn't like the current pet system and all creatures go teh way of the probot...
you can easily find me or my MCH partner 1 hour or 2 before the shutdown, selling non ch pets in front of coronet and theed spaceports.
me -> aki'xianghua (yea I know, but with that name I only get important and motivated person's tells)
my partner -> cheehwa
I can make you a bunny if you want, I even got one for sale, very good but the kinetic resist is pretty low (around 14 if I can remember).
I can't make many different types cause I only have the clone 1 box the other boxes just give more skins and skins doesn't matter as far as the dna is good, so I level the techniques tree first.