Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Pets
One thing of note is the aggro.....
Some CH hypothesized that it helps hold aggro better. Perhaps it is in a way adding the percentage to the damage in hate calculations. In any event, I wouldn't hold aggro too lightly until some tests are done with same damage, higher aggro pets and their abilities to hold aggro.
The state resist I think I can trust although only NPCs really do this, thus I usually regard it as a chucker. Would of been useful against Sith to not have intimidate put on my pet. When specials get fixed tho, I figure I'll change that but then again all the pets I'm making now will probably need to be redone to get specials in.
lammergeier wrote:
KitiaraMajere wrote:
These are some really fabulous answers I am getting from you Lamms.This information will help out significantly in getting my pet business up and running. Final question. When creating pets who should I cater more to? The Non-CH creature pets or the higher level CH pets? Who is more in need of pets?
my advice?
there are more nonCH's than CH's. CH's can use nonCH pets, nonCH's cannot use CH pets.
based on these statements: you'll probably sell more nonCH pets than CH pets. since nonCH pets are SEVERELY limited in combat efficacy, you'll probably sell most as true 'pets', or as mounts. true 'pets' will likely be custom orders... knee-high eopies, fluffy bunnies, cats, etc. we don't have any birds, nor any snakes, so prepare yourself for disappointed customers. mounts? right now, sizing-based-on-CL limits the number of nonCH mount skins that can hold a saddle... dewbacks, falumpasets, and brackasets seem to work at CL10.
nonCH's can hold two pets in the datapad, while mCH can hold twenty. CH's have a greater 'demand' for pets than nonCH's. BioE pets can offer advantages over wild tames.
based on THOSE statements: you'll probably sell a number of CH pets. while three female narglatches looks hard to beat (wild tames), you'll probably find a number of CH's interested in CL70 pets. you might find levelling CH's looking for lower CL pets, but I'd imagine that most of these will be custom orders... it'd be hard to predict and stock a vendor with CL12, CL15, CL20, CL25... etc clones to meet every possible CH need.
if you're starting out fresh with pet crafting or selling, I'd definitely recommend making 50 or so CL10 dewbacks, falumps, or bracks... the ingame experience you'll get with sampling, crafting, experimenting, and the overall cloning process will help you when you decide to move the CL target higher.
As a MCH and having an alt who is now a BE - I have to say that you may not sell many high level CH pets.
I am making level 70 cats (my preference) but because of the cl=size that some bright spark thought would be a good idea, I no longer want BE pets. 
Every pet of 70/69 that I have crafted is now so big I feel no affinity for it, unlike how I felt about every other pet in my datapad pre-CU. ( I am still grieving for some of them) I have now decided to stick with the BE pets I DID convert as I prefer their decent size, and my 3 female nargs who give such good tanking.
All this, of course, makes my alt about as much use a chocolate fireguard - but as I am having fun making little pets for the newbs, it is keeping me happy.
This issue of cl=size might be worth bringing up with the devs. It really makes a CH look silly (thoughI was hoping it would be impressive!) when they walk into town with a cat that looks like a house end. The other important factor is - no group wants me and my big cats. Though when I pull my average size pets - I am welcome again.
Apart from the opinion above - well done to all the experienced BEs on this forum who give such excellent information. You all really do deserve a medal for sticking it out with the nerfs and borkdom you have been awarded.
I was afraid that was going to be the case. How big do the kima's (the cats not the kimogilias) get? Are they all right?
Dor
I've made almost 800,000 credits in the last week and a half selling post CU BE pets. Although, I do have an advantage over most BE's in that I can tame and call the pets I make, therebynot being relgated to selling deeds on a vendor.
Also, some people don't like the big pets, and some peole love them, butthere is a market for big pets. And based on the amount of credits I've made recently, I'd say a good market.
REALbp1 wrote:
I've made almost 800,000 credits in the last week and a half selling post CU BE pets. Although, I do have an advantage over most BE's in that I can tame and call the pets I make, therebynot being relgated to selling deeds on a vendor.
Also, some people don't like the big pets, and some peole love them, butthere is a market for big pets. And based on the amount of credits I've made recently, I'd say a good market.
I've made a killing on post CU BE pets as well. About 4mill in the last week. I would agree that not only is there a good market for big pets, it's one of the main selling points. It boggles my mind that some people are complaining about the growth to CL of BE pets. The pets are so much cooler and this provides a market for CH tamed pets that aren't as big.
efreak1974 wrote:
REALbp1 wrote:
I've made almost 800,000 credits in the last week and a half selling post CU BE pets. Although, I do have an advantage over most BE's in that I can tame and call the pets I make, therebynot being relgated to selling deeds on a vendor.
Also, some people don't like the big pets, and some peole love them, butthere is a market for big pets. And based on the amount of credits I've made recently, I'd say a good market.
I've made a killing on post CU BE pets as well. About 4mill in the last week. I would agree that not only is there a good market for big pets, it's one of the main selling points. It boggles my mind that some people are complaining about the growth to CL of BE pets. The pets are so much cooler and this provides a market for CH tamed pets that aren't as big.
I for one would like to thank the devs for making growth match CL. I've always loved being MCH and love it even more now.
lammergeier wrote: short version: collect five DNA samples. make a 'generic DNA template' with the five DNA samples. pray against a critical failure on assembly: crit fails destroy the DNA. read dorelli's 'predicting pet level' thread. download namessiah's preliminary calculator. EDIT: (clicky broken) choose a 'skin' for the clone from the 'creatures' tab in a food/chem crafting tool. craft it using the 'generic DNA template', flora, and meat. compare the calculated stats against the crafted stats. color it, name it, tame it/resample it/sell it. watch the stats (to-hit, defense, armor effectiveness) shift to a CL-based value when it is tamed, violating any experimentation you put into the crafting process.
Message Edited by lammergeier on 06-19-200511:58 AM
hehe i added your clicky
Kaomond wrote:
I've made a killing on post CU BE pets as well. About 4mill in the last week. I would agree that not only is there a good market for big pets, it's one of the main selling points. It boggles my mind that some people are complaining about the growth to CL of BE pets. The pets are so much cooler and this provides a market for CH tamed pets that aren't as big.
I for one would like to thank the devs for making growth match CL. I've always loved being MCH and love it even more now.
The problem isn't so much the bigger pets, the problem is that the CL10 pets don't grow big enough to be mounted, so we have lost part of our income that way.
I think these points are valid and show how the playstyle of different MCH vary. There have always been the master CH who need the largest pets because that is the kind of pet they enjoy having. I always had a pair of graul maulers (cant have them now) and a rancor. These were my "show off" pets. They were never as good as my BE cats single or paired. My playstyle, and those of other MCH in my guild was to have our waist high pets to tank and group with others. The pets were efficient at helping the group and never got in the way.
I roleplay a little and to me, having an enormous cat so much bigger than me feels just silly. I had a trio of wild GSP but gave them away after a while of enjoying their beauty as they were just too big. So smaller, understated and ...deadly, is my preference.
OddWan wrote:
It is interesting that it is Kimas that come to waist height that are now the most popular - tells you a lot about what the active ch wants?
Sorry - but I thought this was stating that a number of MCH are asking for these pets, when I know that at one time we wouldn't have considered them whatever the level. I had oneof these pre-CUat level 45 and as it lacked the speed of a cat, I let it go free.
BraccusD wrote:
A CL70 BE kima comes to my waist, so I find these a good option. I've had a number of requests for CL70 kimas from other MCHs too. Although I also get some for the big rancors too. Probably like me they use the rancor when solo and kima in groups. My blurrg is about 2x my size. The gurreck is a bit above my head. And the fambaa feels like an AT-AT.
Message Edited by OddWan on 06-22-2005 09:15 AM
That's fair.
If you like Cu-Pas, try to making a high level of one. They don't get too big and you can still mount them. It's very hadny having a mount that is also your fighting pet.
Good luck on the kima.
Message Edited by REALbp1 on 06-22-2005 09:21 AM