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Thread: Need Template Advice

elneckio
Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:05 am
#27


one of those two imho :




MLS/4440 defender/4000 healer/2002/ enhancer (pop it up to 3002 enhancer btw)


^ the easier template to play the better one for pve.



MLS/4040 defender/4000 healer/2402 enhancer..


^ the more powerfull but you will have to learn to channel and manage your force well when using it, probably the better pvp temp.





Both good templates, not a lot in it.

Morgano-01
Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:17 am
#28

I think you need to decide on if you want to PvP or Duel. Depending on what design FRS has, that can make or brk things. Dueling is a whole dif. breed. One skill which I didn't see listed in the builds, was Hlr xx2x or xx4x. SAP is just underappreciated. It's death to CMs which will prob become the main stay for BHs. It's great in PvP and killer in 1 on 1 duels. Prob is you have to give up a lot for it. My current bulid is MLS/Def 4040/Hlr 4020/Enh 3004 - toss on your lovly Doc buffs (spd one) and you're killing most ppl in seconds. Down side it the action costs WILL catch you in longer fights, and of course you're vuln to your own build. SAP slows you down.


I like that build, but sadly am going to change mine to include cloak. I don't want to become one of the masses of Cloak Ninja's, but even assuming they get the current bug fixed, it's still just about the best PvP skill. Again, Dueling is another story.





Morgano
Healer of Wounds
Breaker of Hearts
Snake47
Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:54 pm
#29

Im currently Mswords/Mtk 4000 doc and it's a strong template.. i like it.. but I am thinking going master Doc for buffs and stronger heals etc.. just too many times I been with groups and no one can res in those nastey places like Avatar, BS compound , DWB. etc


But I don't want to give up my soloing ability. I can solo fine in places like GeoCaves and whatnot. I like being able to go toe to toe with Grovo and bull rancors etc all on my own..


So I'm thinking of two templates..

Mswords/Mdoc 2200 Tk.. i get improved CoB and legsweep OR as a friend suggested to me

Mswords/Mdoc 0040 pike I'll get a lesser CoB (not sure how much less defense) but I'll get a leg sweep in pikes brawler line and i'll get intimidate and warcry along with some nice defenses there.. I would appreciate any thoughts or input on these..also i Iike to duel and with my current template I have beaten jedi. ( i just knew my toon better than them is all ) I don't expect to be the end all be all pvp toon


But i need ot be a good tank and have good surviviability so when people are going down. I'm still standing ready to rez em if need be.(barring that damn healing bug)

Mind you I'll be using up my token respec (the constant popping up is annoying me) and I want to be sure before I respec. I'm thinking once the reimplement poison and disease etc back into SWG this will make Docs even more viable.


Thx for any input you skilled sages of melee combat may have for me.




All I ever asked for in life was an unfair advantage.
Snake47
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:21 pm
#30

anyone? gotta be someone with some knowledge between the two. I'm leaning towars Imp CoB cuz then i can focus on damage and not have to hit with Intimidate and warcry..although i think the pike line would be better for duels... not sure.. any input would be really really appreciated.



All I ever asked for in life was an unfair advantage.
slaymaker
Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:31 am
#31

Me myself is tkm-mswords-doc 4000 and i like it a lot umm i wouldn't change my template because of some 1 else and theyre "disability" lol if u like a template stay at it but don't change it cause of other people. just my thought on it.



~Lordyeshua~
TKM-Swords 0444-Doc 4004
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slaymaker
Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:32 am
#32

srry double post






~Lordyeshua~
TKM-Swords 0444-Doc 4004
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Corran85
Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:36 pm
#33


Keep at least 0/1/0/0 TKA. Improved Cob is worth it. What i would do(and have done) Is go Master Doc, Master Swords, 0/4/0/0 tka. Then, if you are going FS, only train a couple skills(i did melee defense and melee speed, leaves you 0/2/0/0 tka) And dont train until you are done. I dont have any real problems in most places, and the ability to rez is very useful.
IthurielAsuhyk
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:44 pm
#34

I agree with prev post, right now I'm mdoc/mswords/x2xx TK, and I can't complain. I am the guild's main doc, so I need ability to rez. I never wear armor, but find myself quite capable of soloing most things in game. Tonight, after doing it with a friend, I went back and soloed Black Sun Assassins/Thugs on Yavin, cl 88, and havedone finewith my crazy boredom-generated runs through ns caves. Had no problems with imp CoB and mdoc buffs goin. Only problem is that it takes forever, with the huge sac costs of normal ph's. Get used to seein "too tired" message. I have generally been only healer who goes out with my normal grind group, and have to say that even with jedi spinning the lair it's rare to see incaps. Wouldn't really recommend this approach for pvp though, as the lack of non-swords attacks, especially status/area effects, really doesn't give you much versatility against smart players. As far as pve though, don't worry, this template does just fine as a tank and has no probs keepin everyone else fightin fit.



Ithuriel Asuhyk-Pikes/TKM/Doc
I'm in love with Pyotr Turgon's Probot
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PaxonHollow
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:38 pm
#35

Okay well, I've been playing roughly around 6 months or so, my main character on Bloodfin server is about to unlock in two more village phases and lately have been thinking of the kind of jedi template I'd like to go with. I haven't done much pvp in the months I've played except pretty recently when I made a bh toon on Intrepid so you're input on a template would be much appreciated.


My character is going dark jedi..I know the FRS isn't up yet but I've kept in mind things to consider about the template I am thinking of when it does finaly come live again. I was thinking of going Master Powers, Master Defender..now the quandry..is this a good template and if so what would you suggest supplimenting it with? Was considering Lightsaber definately but unsure if I could fit some Enhancer in there or is that not even feasible? Constructive criticism only please.




Ateth Fittale ~Bloodfin~
[ Elder Smuggler | Elder Artisan | Elder Swordsman | ElderCH | ElderTKM | Elder Pike | Elder MCM | 90 respec Jedi]
Amicri ~Bloodfin~
[ Structures Trader | Master Bounty Hunter | Master Smuggler]
Xevander
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:51 pm
#36

Best thing to do is pick a template you'll enjoy and don't worry so much about being Uber. That being said, if you're considering M Powers/Mdef maybe consider Healing 3xxx and Enh xxx2 for improved infusion, 1k heals, and channel to reduce down time. Another popular Powers temp is M Powers/M Enh where you actively manage your defense using forceunlike defender where it is passive. I am a MLS/Mdef and so I cannot specifically comment on how M Powers does in PvP, however, I have talked to a few and what they have told me is M Powers is good in PvE and PvP against non Jedi but not quite as good in jedi PvP. I have read posts on these forums from M Powers though that have said they do great in Jedi PvP so it likely boils down to knowing your template. Check the sticky at the top of the Jedi forums for the Jedi template guide by Insanius (spelling?) which discusses strengths and weaknesses of almost every possible template. Hope that helps!

PaxonHollow
Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:53 pm
#37

Thank you very much for your comments, one question though..without Lightsaber of any kind would I then be inefficient and low damage using one? I would like to use a lightsaber and be semi effective with it but being dark jedi I do want the force choke and lightning attacks to be a primary means of damaging an enemy but also I would like to have rather good defense..as of right now I am MCM/TKM and am loving the TKM innate armor. I intend to go full into roleplaying mode once I get my jedi and am determined no one (well..hardly anyone out of my circle of friends) will know of my being a jedi till its too late and the master powers just seems to fit with the dark jedi concept I have in mind




Ateth Fittale ~Bloodfin~
[ Elder Smuggler | Elder Artisan | Elder Swordsman | ElderCH | ElderTKM | Elder Pike | Elder MCM | 90 respec Jedi]
Amicri ~Bloodfin~
[ Structures Trader | Master Bounty Hunter | Master Smuggler]
wickedHangover
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:44 pm
#38

was looking at MBH, Mrifles, medic 0200 and SL 0003, any thoughts on it? My history was old time MBH with the master scout/mmarks and the rest put in ranger 0030, then I went to TKM/bh4000/medic 0040 and my post CU had been mrifles/MBH and pistols 0004, but Im thinkin squad leader sounds like fun...





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