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Thread: Another Factory Tissue Thread Or, Aurgh! I just wasted that bone!

ArthurDentOnBria
Sat May 08, 2004 7:08 pm
#14






MooF_Juggernaught wrote:

to elaborate


tissues are not stacking correctly, if you use 2 cloths with lets say +15 ms tissues in one peice of clothing, only one will come through. this has happened twice to my master tailor in the last 2 days.







Well, a little history on this... originally there was no stacking. Then, it was changed so that cloths within different slots of the schamtic stack but those within the same slot do not stack.


So in other words schematics like:


2 synthetic cloths


3 synthetic cloths



If you insert 2 +13 cloths and 3 +12 cloths you will get +25. But if you insert 3 +12 cloths and 2 un-modded cloths you get only +12.


Originally this was mentioned as being a bug, but recently we were told this was "as intended". Nothing has changed in months in this regard.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 05-08-2004 07:12 PM



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grelgen
Sun May 09, 2004 1:13 pm
#15

What Mr. Marko (moof) is talking about is the unproovable fact that the tissues actually provide any benefit what so ever. Sure, you can wear a +25 hat for mask scent, but you cant test it properly. Bleed defense is the most notorious example of this. They have more proof that the tissues dont work than they of them working.



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Kevm
Sun May 09, 2004 3:17 pm
#16






grelgen wrote:
What Mr. Marko (moof) is talking about is the unproovable fact that the tissues actually provide any benefit what so ever. Sure, you can wear a +25 hat for mask scent, but you cant test it properly. Bleed defense is the most notorious example of this. They have more proof that the tissues dont work than they of them working.





No that's not what he's talking about. He's using the tissues wrong as it waas pointed out, that's why he doesn't see the tissue bonus stacking.



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NancyJ
Sun May 09, 2004 3:41 pm
#17



grelgen wrote:
What Mr. Marko (moof) is talking about is the unproovable fact that the tissues actually provide any benefit what so ever. Sure, you can wear a +25 hat for mask scent, but you cant test it properly. Bleed defense is the most notorious example of this. They have more proof that the tissues dont work than they of them working.




Actually its fairly easy to test with Injury and Wound Treatment - now that there is no randomness in doc buffs the advantage of BE clothes can be easily seen - BE clothes + food and droid can give your buffs around 500 more points of enchancement (with 850-900 packs)

IIRC there has also been extensive testing by rangers on the effects of mask scent clothing.




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grelgen
Sun May 09, 2004 4:05 pm
#18

kevm: His post came after the realization of that fact (edit: BY 4 HOURS). try to look for context.

Nancyj: How much improvement is there from not using any enhancements to just using BE clothing?

Message Edited by grelgen on 05-09-2004 06:05 PM



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MooF_Juggernaught
Mon May 10, 2004 1:26 pm
#19

<sigh>


i know what im talking about. im not a tailor, and the tailor i used is a master tailor on 2 servers and has been for +8 months, so i doubt very much shes doing something wrong.






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Kevm
Mon May 10, 2004 2:04 pm
#20






MooF_Juggernaught wrote:

to elaborate


tissues are not stacking correctly, if you use 2 cloths with lets say +15 ms tissues in one peice of clothing, only one will come through. this has happened twice to my master tailor in the last 2 days.







What piece of clothing were you using? was it 2 seperate cloth slots or was it one slot that needed 2 cloths?


The reason I'm doubting there is anything wrong is the fact that I've made a number of tissues in my factories and none of them have had a single problem being used as they were supposed to by the tailors who got them.

Message Edited by Kevm on 05-10-2004 04:07 PM



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MBE - Cairdeas City - Wanderhome

Kreegan's BE Pets and Tissues - Cairdeas City, Naboo (7378 -6482)
Kreegan's Pet Meds - Right outside Coronet on the Map!
Kevm
Mon May 10, 2004 2:06 pm
#21






grelgen wrote:
kevm: His post came after the realization of that fact (edit: BY 4 HOURS). try to look for context.


Message Edited by grelgen on 05-09-2004 06:05 PM




I looked at the context and what was said. Thanks Mr Grelgen, but I passed English a long time ago.


It seems by his post that he was talking about the stacking not working correctly, not that the enhancements didn't seem to be working at all. Espcially since he's talking about trying to stack 2 +15 Mask Scent tissues on 1 peice of clothing and not getting anything more than +15 bonus. Maybe you should read more carefully?


Either way I asked for clearification, since I still think he's asking about stacking and their use in the clothes crafting process.


Message Edited by Kevm on 05-10-2004 04:09 PM



Kreegan Lirpa
MBE - Cairdeas City - Wanderhome

Kreegan's BE Pets and Tissues - Cairdeas City, Naboo (7378 -6482)
Kreegan's Pet Meds - Right outside Coronet on the Map!
MooF_Juggernaught
Mon May 10, 2004 4:03 pm
#22

it was for a piece of clothing that took cloths in different slots, there fore i shouldve gotten +25 ms in the item, but only +15 came through.



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NancyJ
Mon May 10, 2004 4:05 pm
#23

I've not noticed any difference between using 2 x +17 items and using a +25 enhancement for my doc. The difference is significant for doc's, a buff thast would usually do around 1800 can do 2k+ with BE clothes and more with food




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ArthurDentOnBria
Mon May 10, 2004 4:46 pm
#24

Moof,


/shrug


dunno what to say, except that your tailor friend seems to be the only one having this problem. I make bio clothing every day, and so do all the tailors in the tailor forum and nobody is reporting this problem.



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


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