Bio Engineer Archive

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DarkJurai wrote:

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loomis001 wrote:

this change wont effect clones at all. because clones dont use resource quality like other stuff we make you can quote me on this, this only effects stims/tissus for us ...btw it takes 3 points to get 500 fort if you dont fail

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:11 PM

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:13 PM

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the chage is based on experimentation in addition to resource quality. clones do use resources- the stats on samples are much like stats on the resources you use. but i am referring to how it will effect the experimentation of clones. it will most definatly change them, i am sure of it.

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THE clones dont use resource quality anymore, but your referring to is dna quality not resource quality

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-14-2004 03:58 AM

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-14-2004 04:07 AM

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Smonkey wrote:

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loomis001 wrote:

this change wont effect clones at all. because clones dont use resource quality likeother stuff we makeyou can quote me on this, this only effects stims/tissus for us ...btw it takes 3 points to get 500 fort if you dont fail

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:11 PM

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:13 PM

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Ok, I quoted you on this, now please show us your data from TC to back it up.

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here is an idea go to tc make a char to prove me i am wrong lol

not saying icant be wrong.... my playing swg rest heavily on this change if it effects the cloning i am not playing any more

I don't understand how it can only take 3 points to get 500 in Fortitude. When I spend 3 points, my DNA Fortitude will go up or down, regardless of my success.

I did an initial combine and got "great success!" and ended with a Fortitude of about 245.

First point spent, "great success!" and the Fort. went up to about 330.

Second point spent, "great success!" and the Fort DROPPED to 198.

Third point "amazing success!" and the Fort raised again to 280 or so. Basically, not much above what I had started with. Not sure if this is what others see, but with me unfortunately 2 of the three points will RAISE Fort, and one will LOWER regardless of success/failure.

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loomis001 wrote:

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DarkJurai wrote:

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loomis001 wrote:

this change wont effect clones at all. because clones dont use resource quality like other stuff we make you can quote me on this, this only effects stims/tissus for us ...btw it takes 3 points to get 500 fort if you dont fail

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:11 PM

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:13 PM

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the chage is based on experimentation in addition to resource quality. clones do use resources- the stats on samples are much like stats on the resources you use. but i am referring to how it will effect the experimentation of clones. it will most definatly change them, i am sure of it.

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THE clones dont use resource quality anymore, but your referring to is dna quality not resource quality

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-14-2004 03:58 AM

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Yes, I realize that. The DNA quality are the numbers that matter. What I am saying is, the system treats those numbers as if they are our resource quality, because DNA is our resource. The system is probably gonna treat ours the same as the rest of schematics, since the rest treat resources like resources, and our schematics treat DNA like resources.

The experimentation responses of "great success", "amazing success", etc. are misleading (much like most of this profession). Whenever you put an experiment point into one of the five areas of experimentation, it is applied to two of the ten areas of the template. You could therefore get a "ludicrous success" in one of the two areas and a "we just kicked you in in the 'nads failure" in the other and the average of the two is the response you see, "meaningless term success". This is why you see health go up and fortitude go down after experimenting, or both go up, or both go down, or even health go down and fortitude go up.

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DarkJurai wrote:

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loomis001 wrote:

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DarkJurai wrote:

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loomis001 wrote:

this change wont effect clones at all. because clones dont use resource quality like other stuff we make you can quote me on this, this only effects stims/tissus for us ...btw it takes 3 points to get 500 fort if you dont fail

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:11 PM

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-12-2004 09:13 PM

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the chage is based on experimentation in addition to resource quality. clones do use resources- the stats on samples are much like stats on the resources you use. but i am referring to how it will effect the experimentation of clones. it will most definatly change them, i am sure of it.

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THE clones dont use resource quality anymore, but your referring to is dna quality not resource quality

Message Edited by loomis001 on 03-14-2004 03:58 AM

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Yes, I realize that. The DNA quality are the numbers that matter. What I am saying is, the system treats those numbers as if they are our resource quality, because DNA is our resource. The system is probably gonna treat ours the same as the rest of schematics, since the rest treat resources like resources, and our schematics treat DNA like resources.

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i agree thats what i am worrries about... i am trying to keep it positve till we know for sure, however if clone system expeiment changes too we will lose alot if you add the upcomming cl 10 changes again :/

it takes 3 points to get me 500 fort