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Thread: I don't want Non-CH's to have 4K HAM, Non-CH Pets...NO!, NO!, NO!

SomeUser
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:19 pm
#14






IF A NON-CH WANTS AN UBER HAM PET....LET THEM INVEST THEIR SKILL POINTS IN CREATURE HANDLER!!!!






I agreethat non-ch shouldnt have access to"uber" pets but I disagree with 4k as being "uber" (will get to that in a sec)






IF THEY WANT A TANK, GROUP WITH A CH THAT HAS TANKS OR A TKM/M DOC THAT IS A TANK ALSO.






I agree






I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE CRAFTING SYSTEM BEING BROKE AND INVALID PETS. IGNORANCE AS A BIO-ENGINEER IS NOT AN OPTION. YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART AND MIND WHEN YOU PUT THAT DNA COMBINE TOGETHER THAT THERE IS A RISK OF MAKING AN INVALID PET. SUCK IT UP AND DRIVE ON TROOP. QUIT YOUR FREAKIN' WHINING!






BE are complaing about our crafting system because, while the core of the system works, the way it calculates the final CL of ourcreatures isnt working as intended according to SOE.


What this means is we BE have no idea what will be valid or invalid everytime SOE decides to "tweak" the system.



I will conceed there are some obvious clones that should not be


Any MBE that makes creatures with 6k hams and 20% res is pushing the envelope way to far.How do we know this? Well we can just take a look at the creatures post dec. (pre-ch nerf) and see that if SOE thought C. gurrecks androcks beetle were too much itdoesnt take a RL scientist to figure out that6K+ ham pets and 20%+ res is toofar.



However, gettingtothe 4k uber pets, I disagree. I make 3.8k/4k health ham3k action ham, 2k/1k mind ham pets with 60s damage, to-hit in the .2ish range, attack speed 2.05ish and 14% kinetic/blast res with all others vul.


This pet has a hard time "tanking" on Talus let aloneDath,Endor, Dant, or Lok **unless** the pet is buffed and is supported by some serious fire-power/ninja kicking. In this case the pet is nothing more then a simple distraction.




The interesting thing to note, is all these petsI made (one I mentioned above) are still valid... While a gurrcat clone I made on Talus with lesser stats was invalid.


I think this is what has most MBEs ticked off... Not the fact that we cant make "uber" pets. I think we need to be able to make pets that are worthwhile at the CL10 level but I think most MBE wouldnt have too many objections invalidating the pre-nerf pets and the uber 8k-10k CL10 clones.



I would suggest you try and learn a little more about a subject you are trying to rant about before ranting about it.


If anything, the ones you should be sick of is SOE and their sloppy coding they push out before it has been thoroughly tested.



Just my two cents






Vezek


Spazzers
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:27 pm
#15

strike two


You missed it again. The NORMAL HAM animals are being declared invalid. The freaks are still usable. Do you get it now? People are still making the super high HAM low level animals. If we were upset about not making those pets this forum would be so quiet you'd hear a pin drop...because we still can.


We want those freaks to be adjusted to the correct level. We even asked for it. This pet check does the exact opposite. It drives us to create nothing but freak animals because they seem to be the only thing that is reliable. Again, I made a CL5 Bantha with 500 HAM and no resists. It was declared invalid. Are you understanding the problem yet?



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Bendi_James
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:49 pm
#16

You are full of BS Spazzers. Please include your formula for this weak ass Bantha of yours that you say is invalid.
Spazzers
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:52 pm
#17

5 minor worrts jerk off.



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Bendi_James
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:08 pm
#18

OK Spazzers....tell me this. When did you make that Pet?.......pre-publish or post-publish?


Admittedly, I took a pre-publish 7, level 8 Cu Pa with paultry, lop-sided stats...nothing over 900 in the HAM bar....50 MaxDamage...and no resists...and gave tried to tame it. It came up invalid....as well as several other creature deeds that I had in the bank deposit.



It might be that SOE is trying to negate all pets made before the publish. If that is the case then we all need to start with a fresh batch of creatures and go from there.


However, I have made 16 animals today. All the way from alevel 5 Bantha with 1000 HAM to the Uber CL10 I vehemently protest against, to the Level63Kimogila with 12K HAM, Armor and great resists to nearly everything and 500 Damage. I have had no invalid checks today. What am I doing right that everyone else is doing wrong? Please explain my fortunate run of luck.


Bendi_James
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:12 pm
#19

Please refrain from name calling. It really is childish, unless you are a child and then I will make exception. If you want to tell me I am full of it...be my guest.


Now answer my question. Pre or post publish?


Spazzers
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:20 pm
#20

I made it the day of the publish. I wanted to try out the new crafting system while it was still active. I don't have a BE on test center and I'm not interested in grinding one there. When they allow character copy I'll go to test.


I had a master creature handler customer that wanted Bantha and cu pa to sell as mounts. I used a generic recipe of cu pa and scyk. I can get a consistant CL10 with 1.5K HAM, medium poison and ranged attack. Nothing special. Just a consistant animal for non-creature sales. Using the new system I couldn't make anything about CL8 using all my experiment points where-as I used one or two points previously or I'd go over CL10.


I used up all the DNA I had and told the MCH I'd make one as a joke model so I used 5 minor worrts. We were cracking up that I couldn't get above CL5 using all my experiment points. We stopped laughing when he tried to tame it.


Your CL5 1K animal and the uber animal you made that you admit you protest go directly to my point. The freaks work and the normal animals don't. I think you really do get it you just don't realize it. Sorry for the jerk off comment. That's not my style.




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Spazzers
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:21 pm
#21

Calling us whiners and telling us to suck it up isn't the pinnacle of maturity I might add



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Bendi_James
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:38 pm
#22

Point taken:smileyvery-happy


"Whiners" is a far cry from "jerk off" in my book...nevertheless it may be the same in yours so touche'


"Suck it up" is a military term I adopted from after 17 years in the US Army Infantry...close to retirement wooohooo! That's what I tell "whiners" when the goin' gets rough.


I'mnot going to concede that the BE crafting system or invalid pet checksare nerfed. I will give credit to the infamous day of final publish as being a day I willnot soon forget, because I could 't get anything to work right on that day. However, since then I have had stable crafting,great creatures and no invalid pet checks. Granted, you are on a different server which might be of some credit to your arguement but, I doubt it.....


Bendi_James
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:44 pm
#23

Spazzer.....go create some creatures and quit fooling around on this board. From what I am seeing....you are arguing a dead issue. SOE has yanked the new crafting system out a day after publish on our server anyways. Give it a couple days if they haven't on yours. Throw all those DNA's and Creatures in the trash that you made on day of publish. Useless garbage.
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