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Thread: BE creatures ARE more powerful than wild creatures...

S0F
Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:00 am
#14

sumo and tal-n have it right.


its not that we cant makebetter versions of the creatures we can make than the ones that can be found in the wild, its that at every CL range for CH thereare many much better creatures in the wild.


people looking for the most powerful creature they can get wont want to use our clones because they can get something much better, and people looking for that unique pet wont want our clones because we have so few to make that they arent unique at all, everyone with a BE clone has to have one ofthe few we can make (something like 25 actually work.. ?).


thats the problem.




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Arsat2
Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:22 am
#15

Thats what i mean.

We BEs make the best Pets which we can make, but that is not much and it isnt the right LvL.

We need more differnt on Pets and we need pets in the CH Skilllvl to compete with the best wild tamed a CH can have.

and we need it now. Not in 4 Month.

Much of my PA goes to Horizonts and i must say, when i must whait for an BE Patch that comes in 4 Month what i do in SWG ?

My Char is very long ready ( Master CH, Master BE and Novice Merchant ) and this was my goal in SWG. I have many more then 1 millions crd but thats was it.

I make Rancor. I sell Rancor. I make Rancor.

BE was an dream for me. To be a Breeder, but with so much bugged Pets and so little alternation thats not really funny. I have thinked BEs make exotic and singularly and good pets, but that isnt so :-(
GreenStok
Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:41 am
#16

I am a CH, 3-3-0-4


THis is what I have learned.


CL 15, I can make a 2900 ham Kamurra and it can probably whoop a Cowardly Gurreck because the Gurreck will leave before the eand of the fight. But since the Mountain Krevols and Rock Beatle have armor, whether they would win in a fight or not, reqardless, they are cheaper to heal.


CL 25, I confidently recommend the Kusak CL 16.... yes the Kusak. Fact is, none of my pets outdamage me anyway, so really all you want is a pet that will tank. The Kusak can tank a Rancor, they are good enough. But... The Kusak gives you more CH exp than any other pet.... any other pet... on advanced planets. But for power, since I no longer need exp, I instead use a Mite, 6k ham, armor, hits for 265 CL 23. I also use the Grand Wrix, 6500 ham, armor, hits for 225.


Razorcat is the strongest CL 25 pet we have, but without armor, it is expensive to heal. Bolma is a worthless pet, they have been degraded to the dewback level at CL 19, but at any level, all lizzards are bad pets from what I have experienced.


Angler is second choice


CL 25 to 49 we have absolutely nothing that anyone would want ar any price. You will do nothing for your credibility trying. Remember, you are selling these to skilled CH's who know what is out there. We have nothing that isn't embarrassing.


CL 50. We can proudly say that we have Gurrecks and Rancors and they are better. No one will disagree. But since they get 70 pet levels, they will often opt to use like a Grand Wrix CL 22, a Mite CL 23 and a Kliknik CL 24, all 3 with armor, hams are 6500, 6000 and 7500. damage is 225 + 265 + 235. Or they may opt for 2 Graul maulers which is a down graded Rancor. So truth is, we really dont own this market either. If we sell them a Gurreck, they are using 50 of 70 levels, there are no common sense CL 20 pets to use.


Also remember... the Creature that you are fighting will aggro the lowest CL pet, so who ever owns the Kusak, also better own the Pet Stims.


If you team a Kusak and a Gurreck, the Kusak will be the Tank.




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TodoProudfoot
Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:09 am
#17






Reasonable1 wrote:

Taming I - Max Lvl 25 - Bolma - lvl 25 - 7200 HAM - 220-230 dmg






Can anybody makea Bolma with that high of a HAM (using post-dna-patch DNA)? I can make 12K+ HAM Rancors (lvl 50), 7.2K HAM Razor Cats (lvl 21) but I can't get anywhere near 7.2K HAM fora Bolma. I think this information about Bolma's is outdated.



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TodoProudfoot
Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:16 am
#18






GreenStok wrote:

Razorcat is the strongest CL 25 pet we have, but without armor, it is expensive to heal. Bolma is a worthless pet, they have been degraded to the dewback level at CL 19, but at any level, all lizzards are bad pets from what I have experienced.







Along the same lines as my previous post, is there an updated list of the creature level of the pets we can clone? All of the information I find says the Bolma is level 25 and the Razor Cats is Level 21(but their stats say otherwise).


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Reasonable1
Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:18 am
#19

Great Googly Moogly! Greenstok has some excellent info there. If anything deserved to get put in a FAQ, that does.



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Strongbow
Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:43 pm
#20

My personal bolma is 7500 HAM, but he was made prior to the last round of updates where, unannouncedby SOE in patch notes, BE Bolmas were severely downgraded (was there a similar change to wild version too?). Now I'm lucky to push one up to 5000 HAM.



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Plageron
Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:38 pm
#21

Obviouisly someone forgot to ttest the creature against a real one.

You will notice that the real one although it does slightly less damage actauly, will attack faster.

And yes there is a difference between an attack speed of 1.5 versus an attack speed of 3.5.

So the bio-enginered one, let me guess had an attack speed of about 3.5.

Although this is not a huge noticable difference when all you do is let your creature act as a meat shield.

But a meat shield does not last that long against many more powerful creatures.

Oh and also it takes very good components to make good creatures...but even so, the amount a bio-engineer can presently go over compared to a wild one is very small

Anywise....I myself prefer attack speed to a slow attack that does only a little more damage.

So anywise....some things we can improve on, in little amounts....thankfully on the upper creatures this is by quite a bit, but still a very small percentage.

But on many of our lower creature.....go figure....not sure what the deal is, but for example a Gualama has 1700 HAMs, and we would be lucky to get 1400 our selves.



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Arsat2
Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:22 am
#22

My best Bolma was 8100 HAM, but that was before they nerfed it. Now i think the best is around 6 k HAM.
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