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Thread: Clone skin minimum CL / aggressiveness rating Version 3.0

jedisliver
Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:02 pm
#14

I can test some of the Novice clones tonight with a friend of mine but unfortunately my skill as a Bio-Engineer is currently insufficient to go beyond that. And it appears as though all of the novice clones are non-aggressive anyway so I don't know that will help.


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jedisliver
Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:11 pm
#15

Ok chief will do... /salute


On a related note... there is also another attribute I was curious about... Stalker: yes / no


Not sure how to get it to stick or if it changes anything just thought I would throw it out as another unknown


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Sumorex
Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:24 pm
#16

Far as i know, stalker yes/no, just means whether the critter will follow you after noticing you. Rangers get a message "You are being stalked by *critter*". Or something along those lines. Creatures that stalk follow you and will attack you if they get within a certain distance. The stalk mode initiates when the creature notices you (64m? or somewhere around there).


Don't think it has any bearing on pets. Its just part of the creature information you get on examine.




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Dulhaj
Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:50 pm
#17

Sumo....excellant work.


I wish my PC wasn't dead right now... I can't get in much to do any testing to help the community here. Though I've been a silent MBE in the past... you and Tal have re-energized me to be more active.


Again...nice work to you ...and all the BEs who are working together on this.





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Yosho_Tarien
Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:45 pm
#18

Kind of surprised to see Dune Lizard on the aggressive list. Yes, Dune Lizards are both aggressive and deathblow, but their look-alike cousins the Rills are gentle little newbie fodder. So, no nonCH Rill clonesI guess. I always thought that little paw the air thing was cute.



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Sumorex
Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:51 pm
#19

Hhaha I made someone mad enough to spend the time one starring all my posts... I love getting someone so mad that they do something so silly. Here one start his one too! WOOT I PWN J00!



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meroc
Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:12 pm
#20

Only suggestion is you flag the bugged ones (hermit and Merek) as such. Sooner or later they'll get fixed and people could get stuck with a pet they can't call.


I was a little surprised by the Bordok.


I was sampling near a herd of them a few days ago, and there was only one type of them that was red (a Roaming Bordok Stallion or something like that), so after realizing most of the herd was yellow I ignored them. I'll try and remember to check them again next time I'm on Endor.




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jedisliver
Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:30 am
#21

Sumo,


I can confirm using non-argo, non-deathblow, low ferocity DNA will yieldpets Non-CH can use with any of the Novice skins. However,I got mixed results from using all argo, some deathblowing, generally higher ferocity DNA in Novice skins. Example: I made a Kaadu out of Shaupaut andMaverick Gualama DNA that had a CL of 8... it could not be transferred toa non-CH. System message said her datapad was full though we had been exchanging creatures to test all night. I'm not sure if this is a bug or an actual limitation on Non-CH pets.This has lead me to believethatferocity has to be below a certain number for a Non-CH to use (not sure what that number is though). So my test tonightwillfocus on trying to find the break point where a pet becomes unusable for Non-CH.


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Hoonge
Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:10 am
#22

RE: Mereks...


There are no mereks now that aren't agressive.


However, the blurb about Mereks on an endor loading screen says they aren't generally aggressive, and live in small family groups.


Maybe back in beta (I wouldn't know...I wasn't in beta...), mereks weren't aggressive?


I'm glad Mereks don't count as an aggressive skin.






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jedisliver
Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:21 am
#23

Sumo, I'm just getting odd results from this so I must be over looking something. Though I did notice one very interesting detail. I had a failure experimenting aggressiveness using high ferocity, deathblowing and aggressiveDNA in a squall. The end result left a squall that could be used by Non-CH. The odd thing is the action bar was about 1/3 of what it should have been... either this was a fluke or I missed something. Chances are I made a mistake... too badI can not fail on purpose to verify. The only other thing that could have impacted this was the mixture of Below Average and Average DNA in the template. I just achieved DNA Sampling 1 so I'll try again with allAverage DNA to see if that makes a difference. I'm beginning to believe the quality of DNA has a much greater impact on the CL of the clone. Example I have noticed much lower CL's using below average DNA in slots 3 and 4. Even if the Below Average came from clones... CL drops significantly.


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meroc
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:23 pm
#24

Actually, you can try to fail rather sucessfully but using a food/chem kit crafted by yourself (assuming no Artisian Exp. points it'll be like -10 to -14) and no stations around.


You fail a suprising number of times




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Sumorex
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:53 pm
#25

The squall should turn out non-aggressive like ya got.


As to the action being really low... I will wager that when you failed on Aggressiveness that the Dexterity took a hit. Failing usually causes a non-associated stat to drop along with one of the two in the pair you were experimeneting on. So Fail on Aggression either Dex or End drops (the one that does goes up) and one other stat will drop. On a Crit Fail on Aggression both Dex and End drop and usually two other stats will drop.




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Alexia_Wheaton
Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:30 am
#26



Hoonge wrote:

RE: Mereks...

There are no mereks now that aren't agressive.

However, the blurb about Mereks on an endor loading screen says they aren't generally aggressive, and live in small family groups.

Maybe back in beta (I wouldn't know...I wasn't in beta...), mereks weren't aggressive?

I'm glad Mereks don't count as an aggressive skin.






This was the same thing I was going to bring up. Maybe way back when the game first came out Mereks weren't aggro?




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