Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Price Check
I am on Gorath and am looking for a price on surgical droids w/lvl 4 med and R2 w/lvl 4 stuff.
Also, what is a protocol droid - what is it used for?
See this post I made yesterday... I think you will find it very 'enlightening'
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=10822
ok , lately i have noticed a decline in the number of people visiting my shop. This isnt strange at all seeing as how there are 3 other mastere weaponsmiths that are kjnown on our server.
what i wanna know is if i am seeling to high or to low . What are the genral prices for :
Scout :
FWG5 :
Laser series (carbine/Rifle)
Acid riffles
Sr Combat
E11
Ee3
and anyother misc thast i cant remeber atm
Surgery droid - roughly 15k
R2 - roughly 5-7k
Protocol droids are useless but due to resources will cost you about 30k
Fernishku Dirakeen wrote
"Surgery droid - roughly 15k
R2 - roughly 5-7k
Protocol droids are useless but due to resources will cost you about 30k"
Ok... nothing I hate worse than people coming here seeking advice, and getting BAD information in return. Are you seriously going to suggest someone charge 7k for an R2 and at the same time 15k for a Surgery Droid? What possible reasoning goes into that? And then charge 30k for a Protocol Droid? Beyond the mere fact that all of these droids are essentially useless and no better than a mouse droid with the same modules installed, consider the following schematics:
Surgical Droid:
60 Steel, 30 Non-ferrous, 30 Fiberplast = 120 total
Advanced Droid Frame, Advanced Droid Brain, Manipulator Arm, Droid Sensor Pkg, 2 General Service Modules, Personality Chip
R2 Droid:
210 Chemical = 210 total
Advanced Droid Frame, Advanced Droid, Brain, Manipulator Arm Package, Advanced Droid Motive Syste, Droid Sensor Pkg, General Droid Module Socket Cluster (3 modules), Defensive Droid Module, Personality Chip
Protocol Droid:
70 Ditanium Steel, 35 Metal = 105 total
Advanced Droid Frame, Advanced Droid Brain, Manipulator Arm, Advanced Droid Motive System, Droid Sensor Pkg, Personality Chip
Now... looking at what is actually required... how can you possibly justify those costs you gave? The only thing you might be able to defend is the Protocol Droid because Ditanium Steel may be a 'rare' resource on your server. By the way, I'm only saying your 'relative' pricing is very off... your absolute prices I can't question because they will be entirely server-dependant.
The prices were come up by comparinig them to to other droid engineers on my server, the required resources(and remember some require factorys and master artisan parts), and the skill levels. We can't all sell droids for the prices of MSE droids and yes I do know the more advanced droids have the same functionality. That is why I recommend to all my customers to not spend that much and buy a decked oh DZ70 for 3k. There needs to be a price heirarchy and I'm not saying those prices are say fair prices. I am upfront with my customers and tell them its a waste of money but those are general prices for most DE's. I've seen protocolds for 30k(might have just been the frames... not quite sure), R2s general go for 5k, and I've sold a surgical for about 20k I believe... decked out with a personality chip. For lowca my prices are pretty right and I assume most otherservers are with in 2-3k of my estimates.
Why don't you ask the three other Master Weaponsmiths on your server?
We all make different guns, as we all have different resources, come from different servers with different economies. There is no "general" price. Talk to those on your server.
On top of what Logix has said, there really is no set price for say a scout blaster, even on the same server. Many things are going to go in to the equation. What resources are you using and what is your tech level? Basically, are your guns as good a quality as the other weaponsmiths? As servers age, quality is most important because there will not be people to buy lesser quality guns at a discout. Everyone will have money to spend and they will all shop for the best gun. There could be many reasons other than price for why people are not buying guns... mainly, quality. The other 3 might also be selling presliced guns which can be attractive if they have a nice slice.
Not to even go in to cross server economics, as logix explained its impossible. But... the most expensive gun I've seen for sale on Bria was a nice quality laser carbine for 30k. I bought one. Doesn't give you much to compare prices with, so I'd just do a little shopping. Slap on the novice scout title and go visit your competition.
Jabetha wrote:Fernishku Dirakeen wrote
"Surgery droid - roughly 15k
R2 - roughly 5-7k
Protocol droids are useless but due to resources will cost you about 30k"
Ok... nothing I hate worse than people coming here seeking advice, and getting BAD information in return. Are you seriously going to suggest someone charge 7k for an R2 and at the same time 15k for a Surgery Droid? What possible reasoning goes into that? And then charge 30k for a Protocol Droid? Beyond the mere fact that all of these droids are essentially useless and no better than a mouse droid with the same modules installed
There's nothing I hate worse than hearing a whining DE bemoaning how useless the droids are, and then having the gall to tell other DE's that they should be basing the price of their goods on the number of resources required to build it.
Ever hear of a market economy? Droid engineering, while horribly broke, is a profession within the game that provides a needed service to a number of other classes. Droid prices should be based on what customers are willing to pay. Money flows like water in this game, and there is no reason to not let the market set the price, not the number of resources required to build something.
Wow those prices are ridiculously low. I wouldnt sell any one of those models mentioned for under 25k. Droids are permanent, and personally I think it's bad business to sell droids that are exploiting a bug. Hopefully a future patch will render all of those droids useless in all but one function. It sucks if your server's droid engineers are giving them away like that. If you dont feel justified in charging more for a droid than combat professions make in 10 minutes time, then you must think droids are truly worthless, and if that's true, then do everyone a favor and surrender the points to the profession.
How much is a droid that needs only be purchased once, allows for wound healing anywhere, and access to all crafting schematics and the option of experimentation anywhere at any time worth? Alot more than the 10 minutes of mission time it would take to scrounge up the money for those silly prices.
Offer great advice and friendly customer service, explain what currently works, and whats slated to work in a future patch, and your customers will be very appreciative of the service you provide. Word of mouth spreads very quickly in this game, and you'd be offering something that probably most people are looking for more than the cheapest price (especially at those prices). Though maybe I'm more married to the profession than some pa-sponsored novice who's spoon-fed his resources to grind and has no clue what droids can do, or will be doing in the future (pa's gotta have a mde if they wanna cover all the crafting bases).
People have questions about droids and need a friend in the profession that knows what theyre talking about. Buy a gun and shoot it. Buy armor and wear it. Buy a house and drop it. Buy a droid and... err now how do I use this thing?
Good luck!
-Chans K'uwno
MDE Bloodfin