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Thread: Secret to 9k Health creations?

C0rvis
Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:04 pm
#14

neeto



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Corvis M.BH||M.Rifles
-----Bria-----
Vulpecula M.BE||M.CH
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C0rvis
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:32 pm
#15

2 points in aggression and thats it lol. its a touchy recipe though, don't be suprised to get a cl 69 or 71,



----------Gorath----------
Corvis M.BH||M.Rifles
-----Bria-----
Vulpecula M.BE||M.CH
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droid327
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:25 am
#16








Jailbird11275 wrote:





MadAdder3 wrote:

What should be the secondary and thirdary (not a word, lol) stats of importance?





Tertiary.


Did you know: Primary, seconday, tertiary type words exist for all the numbers upto 12. I just can't remember what they are.






Primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary, octonary, nonary, denary, undenary, duodenary, tridenary, quaterdenary...and so on. Twenty is vigenary, then unvigenary, duovigenary......you learn things like this in geology and biology


but really, past quaternary, you'd just say 5th-order, 6th-order, 7th-order, etc....it'd be scary to think of anything practical with 22 levels of structure.....

Message Edited by droid327 on 07-28-2005 02:26 AM



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Kaomond
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:52 am
#17






droid327 wrote:








Jailbird11275 wrote:





MadAdder3 wrote:

What should be the secondary and thirdary (not a word, lol) stats of importance?





Tertiary.


Did you know: Primary, seconday, tertiary type words exist for all the numbers upto 12. I just can't remember what they are.






Primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary, octonary, nonary, denary, undenary, duodenary, tridenary, quaterdenary...and so on. Twenty is vigenary, then unvigenary, duovigenary......you learn things like this in geology and biology


but really, past quaternary, you'd just say 5th-order, 6th-order, 7th-order, etc....it'd be scary to think of anything practical with 22 levels of structure.....

Message Edited by droid327 on 07-28-2005 02:26 AM



Damn! feel asleep halfway through reading that and nearly got sacked for drooling on the keyboard hehe just kidding





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DagoolchStarrunner
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:48 am
#18

Wow mine is incredibly weak compared to yours, i got a MUCH lower armor effectiveness, only 2460...



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Dorelli
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:53 am
#19

If it's the same level then the crafted armor effectiveness means nothing towards weakness and strength of the critter - it'll all get adjusted when the pet is called the second time anyway - adjusted to a plain vanilla value for the level ...


(same for to hit, same for defense).


so best to look at the other stats and the level ...


Dor





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DagoolchStarrunner
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:54 am
#20

so keep it in my datapad untill it gets to level 70?



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Dorelli
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:13 am
#21



lol no your's has probably already adjusted ... thought you guys were comparing deeds. Well one of these animals is a deed ... can you spot which one?


Dor


PS just checked the clicky again - the health regen is a dead give away that's a deed ... is 48 when it would be 480 on the tamed pet. Oh why am i telling you stuff you already know - i'ma gonna be quiet now ....

Message Edited by Dorelli on 07-28-2005 04:16 AM

Message Edited by Dorelli on 07-28-2005 04:22 AM



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DagoolchStarrunner
Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:12 am
#22

you were right he adjusted after i called him again, same stats as morvis's except higher agro (.75) and more health regen (524)



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MadAdder3
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:47 am
#23

Heh, the Health Regen on mine gives it away, as well as the part on the bottom that says something like "Assembly was an Amazing Success!"


And if you wanna split hairs, it was actually about 58 seconds away from being a deed
DrendalKahn
Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:50 pm
#24







DrendalKahn wrote:
Here's my CL 70/9k health pet. Once I duplicate it, I'll post the recipe -- it's a pretty nasty one (the need to up the spawn timer no Sawtooth, lol).




I reproduced it, it seems pretty stable, but the recipe is just nasty.


GEN1: Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Sawtooth + Max Psychology (I wanted to salvage someagro bonus). Put a lower-quality Sawtooth sample in the aggression slot. Should come out to lvl 72.


GEN2: Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Sawtooth/Gen1 + Max Psychology and Max Mental, andExperiment ONCE in aggression and pray that you don't fill the box (you should get about 38%, and you'll be safe).


The respawn timer on Sawtooth is obviously the annoying part about this template, lol.


The second time I reproduced the pet I got 364 damage, the third time 366. So I'll take the difference and say you can expect about 365 damage.


Now... I did it this way because Dor had posted something where she said Dexterity also played into Health level along with Hardiness. I knew Sawtooth was the best chance I would have to reach the cap on both stats, however, as we know a Pure Sawtooth template with no exp goes over lvl 70. So I needed to find something with 1000 Hardiness/1000 Dexterity and lower Power than Sawtooth had (like around 530), since that adds SO much to CL. So instead of going out and wasting my time looking for a pet with that kind of stats, I just made my own and resampled.


Unfortunately, with sawtooth's spawn timer, it's incredibly annoying to get the DNA. So if anyone knows how to create a 1000 Hard/1000 Dex/~530 Power creature without any Sawtooth DNA, let me know lol.


When you're done experimenting it'll show both Hardiness and Dexterity at 1149. With that you'll get 9184 health every time. I dunno if that's the cap onHealthor not, I'm just a noob respec BE, lol.


So I guess the secret to getting 9k health creatures might be getting Hardiness and Dexterity > 1000?

Message Edited by DrendalKahn on 07-30-2005 11:55 PM



DRENDAL KAHN


DagoolchStarrunner
Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:24 am
#25






DrendalKahn wrote:







DrendalKahn wrote:
Here's my CL 70/9k health pet. Once I duplicate it, I'll post the recipe -- it's a pretty nasty one (the need to up the spawn timer no Sawtooth, lol).






When you're done experimenting it'll show both Hardiness and Dexterity at 1149. With that you'll get 9184 health every time. I dunno if that's the cap onHealthor not, I'm just a noob respec BE, lol.


So I guess the secret to getting 9k health creatures might be getting Hardiness and Dexterity > 1000?

Message Edited by DrendalKahn on 07-30-2005 11:55 PM





That sounds as if it's the case as far as i have seen, perhaps some of us should go out and find some other stuff that has high enough hardiness and dexterity to make them higher than 1k final product



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Playing since December 24- 2003

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Dorelli
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:34 am
#26






DrendalKahn wrote:







DrendalKahn wrote:
Here's my CL 70/9k health pet. Once I duplicate it, I'll post the recipe -- it's a pretty nasty one (the need to up the spawn timer no Sawtooth, lol).




Now... I did it this way because Dor had posted something where she said Dexterity also played into Health level along with Hardiness. I knew Sawtooth was the best chance I would have to reach the cap on both stats, however, as we know a Pure Sawtooth template with no exp goes over lvl 70. So I needed to find something with 1000 Hardiness/1000 Dexterity and lower Power than Sawtooth had (like around 530), since that adds SO much to CL. So instead of going out and wasting my time looking for a pet with that kind of stats, I just made my own and resampled.





Drendal - cool !!!


Two things - *I* am not the person who figured out about the dexterity and hardiness being contributory to the health. Someone else did - in fact someone else posted ALL the equations for calculating the stats in the new pet system and I totally cannot find that post. Whoever you are - can you please please please post a link to that original post (or posts if there was more than one of you) so that I can stop taking undeserved credit for things I didn't do? I'll add it (and your names) to the slot post that is stickied ... Thank you....


Second thing...Drendal ... is this interesting? I found this DNA lying around my house which means I think that it is a bit old and hopefully they haven't changed the stats on it but ....


walluga skullsmasher veteran (he is an elite on ryatt trail)
Above Average
Hardiness: 1000
Fortitude: 555
Dexterity: 931
Endurance:738
Intellect: 147
Cleverness: 602
Dependability: 266
Courage: 93
Fierceness: 260
Power: 623


OK - looking at his stats he isn't the animal you're looking for but he sure spawns faster than mr sawtooth so maybe he would do for making the first generation. Or not ... Just a thought ... Also there are other double elites on the ryatt trail ... (*scrambles around wildly for a book or something to hide behind before anyone notices that dor doesn't really know what she is talking about on this particular subject*)


Dor - who thinks it might be getting to be time to work on her own level 70 recipe ....




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