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Thread: My opinion

FignarKrynn
Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:25 pm
#14

Hello, i just want to say this is not a thread to provoke jedis or BH its just my own opinion on what could be done to keep both classes happy.


The developers wanted to keep the jedi very rare in accordance to the time line and so they bought permdeath in. Now initally it seems a very good idea you get a superior character how ever you need to obide by certain changes in your playing style. Now looking at it this way you think fair enough i can live with that but when you are greeted by a class which unless you reach the highest lvl it is pointless playing as you cannot defend yourselfs succesfully, your weapons are ineffective vs high lvl comp armour, you have no real defences; its true you have to think is this just a basic class with a flashy stick. Now i am in favour of perm death cause it means that people do have to think twice before pulling out light sabres in public just to show off or large groups of FSC's making their own cities etc. However its pointless having permdeath for a class that clearly is no where near as powerful as the devs intended but this is to be expected as the game is not complete and the devs haven't really had a chance to implement improvements.


Now i have seen many ideas on how to improve the class but people are straying from the very basics and focusing on issues which won't help you in the long run. Now if your jedi could defend himself say beyond the abilitie of those template characters and have significantly more damage done by the sabre what would this mean? Firstly it would mean it would be almost impossible for a single Master BH to kill you, i've seen uber template characters taking on MBH's and whooping ass and i've even read that someone with a template created character because he stacked his defenses it took 37 trys for someone to hit him. Now imagine if the Jedi had that at his/her disposal it would mean that it would take 5/6 players to actually do significant damage to you. Now couple this to improved damage by your light sabre, i agree the light sabre is a powerfull weapon but it should not do kinetic damage it should be heat damage. Say if this was the case that 90% resistance to kinetic comp armour would be ineffective and give you a better chance doing significant amounts of damage to your target. Thirdly if you had effective resistance to the KD and Dizzy status effect, how ever this would be coupled with myfirst point, your jedi character will have a half decent chance of surviving. Now imagine this is the case all these were implemented it would mean that instead of 1 player using KD and Dizzy would not kick your ass it would mean that BH's would have to form teams to come and track you down and kill you which at the moment rarely happens as there is no need for it. It would mean that say if you were out grinding and you suddenly LD while in a fight when you log back on you will still be alive thanks to your defense skills, avoiding those nasty deaths for no reason. Now if you see what i'm getting at its that in these circumstances for you to die would be very difficult unless BH worked together and you don't do stupid things like try and take one whole lairs of ranacors by yourself etc. Now couple this with perm death its harder for you to be killed but you still can die and lose months of work. Now in this case it would mean you keeping a low profile just how the devs want it to be, it would mean playing more carefully on your part to avoid TEFS and teams of BH coming for you but also if they did come for you you will have a much greater chance of survival. Now permdeath in this sistuation would be a good solution.Now don't get me wrong i don't wish for a FSC to have super defenses i wish for them to increase as you progress through the tree.


The remaining problems are that the cost of the parts you need for the light sabre, the inability for your FSC to survive with out your main character. Now if the devs implemented a system much like those mention on these forums of the ability for a FS character to survey for various types of crystal it would mean no need for millions of credits, you could simply go out and find crystals with some effort, which again would mean having a break from the grinding to do something else to help you character. Now the issue of kryat pearls for the sabres to be honest i see no need for them to be components for light sabres, if the surveying method is implemented it would mean that a greater variety of force crystalscould be created each varying on quality from poor to decent to very very good and the good ones only obtainable by a significant amount of time surveying and by a certain amount of luck as they will be so rare. This would mean that as the crystals can be found with a good amount of effort there will be no inflated prices no one charging 600k for a force crystal etc so to a certain extent your character will be self reliant.


Now if you think about it if the above were implemented you would have a really good class to play with but with the risk of actually losing months of work significantly reduced but still there. Now like i said its my opinion, i want this game to be enjoyable for all espeacily the BH and jedi cause the Jedi are a main part of the starwars universe be they dark or light and their foes are the BH in this time period.




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stormtroopermaul
Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:39 pm
#15






gilcrestp wrote:

i dont have a jedi. And i am starting to get really annoyed from all the people complaining about how jedis are ruining the game, and complaining about the jedi ruining stuff. and i dont think anyone has any real good reason other than jelauosy for the people that have jedis, cuz i dont see anyone that has one complaining. So, please stop whining.






well let me be the first than, jedi sucks



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gilcrestp
Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:40 pm
#16

i just got told /cry



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Aliman
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:16 am
#17


Reason why jedi are most hated proffesion:


* They just wanna be uber

* They cant handel a defeat

* They wanna nerf everyone else becouse they cant play their jedi


Well suck it up boys and girls. This is a video game if you cant handel to be killed then quit damn it.

I see a lots of post nerf this nerf that. Well SHUT UP allready. The game is nerfed as it is.

I'm a jedi my self but when i see that all you think about is your self and trying to nerf everyone else for your

own beniffits then i dont even feel for playing jedi and im sick of all complains.

All right i agree that there are all LOT of stuff that need fixing but screaming the same S**** day in and day out

will not help you. You are just pissing all other proffesions off.


Reason why i started this post is after that i read post nerf lastditch. WT-F is wrong with that. It's working as it should.

People that find a way to abuse this are exploiters. There should be a way to change this without resaluting of nerfing lastditch.

Common people take you head out of sand and think about others before you think about your self.

And what's all this about nerfing defender? There should always be weaknesses in a proffesions. Otherwise they should just make

a proffesion called GOD and get it over with. NO YOU CANT HAVE I WIN BUTTON.


I agree altso that jedi are underpowerd but give it time people it will get fixed but please stop this NERF bussiness.













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SaSuKeRuLeS
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:22 am
#18

you've got it all wrong jedi are hated because:


1. some jedi are complete arses and abuse their power being in gank squads and such


2. jedi is basically the only IMO worth while "content" in swg


3. some people are envioius of a jedi's "power" and are jealous because they can't or don't get jedi because of the huge amount of grinding you have to do


4. there are too many jedi therefore when someone now sees a new jedi they think ugh another jedi great....


5. jedi whine a lot and give people headaches (dont deny it i know everyone jedi has whined atleast once including me )


6. jedi get more attention from the developers than any other profession


thats it in a nut shell






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Quiet420
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:28 am
#19

your sick of all the complaints? so you start your own complaint thread? original.


Jedi is the most "hated" proffession because of envy, jealousy, and greed, thats not our fault others cant or wont put in the time and effort.


last ditch is not working as intended...it has first strike capability, might not hit that often, and it requires a proper setup, but there should never be a situation where an assault can be initiated with a 2-6k damage attack. call it what you want...it needs to be nerfed from its current state, not just to benefit jedi, but for all proffessions



Aliman
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:33 am
#20

I dont know if you have been to mos easly latly my friend but place is crawed with noobs.

I was there visiting pilot trainer and got attacked by some storm troopers. So i used saber to kill them.

All at once people come running after me asking to be my padawan. LOL i found that funny but it should not be funny becouse

people that join the game now are joining it becouse they wanna play jedi. My answer to that is change badge need to become FS into HOLO'S again. Then after they got FS they should get visit from the old man and get access to village. That will slow down numbers of jedi's. And if people really wanna go for jedi then we should start seeing a lots of other proffesions then only BH and JEDI.




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