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Thread: BE Clothing Tissues Are Not Working On Live Publish 18

MataHairy
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:24 am
#14






SioBabble wrote:





Aleskander wrote:
Well, we knew it was going to happen...SOE just can't seem to do something without breaking everything else. The worst part is they knew it was broken on TC and went live with it anyway.





This is the story of Test Center. The players there find and identify the bugs, and the publishes are pushed to live with the bugs intact anyway. This has been going on since launch, the devs have NEVER learned the lesson here. I suspect they were collectively dropped on their heads repeatedly as children.






What amazes me in that SOE is a division of SONY, a Japanese company with an excellent reputation for quality and reliability. Quality, in fact, is a huge part of Japanese business philosophy. Clearly,in SOE management'sview, timelines are more important than quality. They have demonstrated this approach time and time again. I wonder if the bosses in Japan realize and support this approach?







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Iarian
Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:29 pm
#15

/sigh - This publish has been horrible - ... and is it possible to do any more damage to BE's oh wait I shouldn't say that too loud cause they could mess up additives too..





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SioBabble
Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:15 am
#16






Reacer wrote:


What this was a publish... not only some new bugs?



Wasnt there something buggy on TC for Jedi and they took it out of Pub 18?



But BE … who cares









My understanding is that "elemental damage" was not working properly, so they excluded getting it going in the publish.While the people screaming the most (you know where this is going...) are the flashlight folk, it affects a lot of other combat oriented players as well. Commandos in particular, but there are "elemental damage" weapons of nearly every type, both ranged and melee, that are not working as intended.


But I hear you otherwise, if it's a bunch of crafters, who gives a womp rat's ass about it, anyway?




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Reacer
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:46 pm
#17


What this was a publish... not only some new bugs?



Wasnt there something buggy on TC for Jedi and they took it out of Pub 18?



But BE … who cares






Plz offer auctioned items into my be-tissues vendor at WP in my sig...thx!

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Aleskander
Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:19 pm
#18

Actually, if you ask a CSR what you'll getis the "its working as intended" reply or the "update your video drives"



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Sent_RS
Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:53 pm
#19


I hate this game.




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KatScratchFever
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:46 pm
#20

Any updates on this being fixed?



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Pedyko
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:41 pm
#21

Welcome to fix this anytime, i mean how long is it going to take? There is snail speed and then this which is ridiculus. If anyone wants to purchase +15 and +16 both stats of fear release and tensile on scylla let me know im getting out of this proff



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I8TheWorm
Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:25 pm
#22



MataHairy wrote:


Cindal wrote:


Psychopyro80 wrote:
Please be advised, you may get complaints from Tailors because of tissues not working. Also do not use your old crated SC/RFP if you are a BE/Tailor. The mods from pre Publish 18 will not work as well.

That Scent Camofulage no longer works doesn't make sense as there were no changes to this tissue with CU or Pub 17. Did it change with Pub 18? If it did, in what respect did it change?

These Stealth nerfs/changes to our profession are getting old.




It's not a stealth nerf, it's SOE and its spaghetti code. They pull on one end and something unexpectedly changes on another. My favorite example was when they fixed image designer and broke all crafting.






An inherent problem with combining object oriented programming with a revolving door in the development team is exactly what we've seen with regards to bugs in SWG. I can't say I really blame the devs, but I do take issue with the software architect(s) and project managers. Those folks should be sent to Singapore for their form of punishment.



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Reacer
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:24 am
#23

Singapour is a nice place to be


Nah there havent been that many bugs that bothered me, and im playing since 2 years...


But it's true that there are all the time the same amount of bugs ingame, if they take out one, there will be a new one for sure...







Plz offer auctioned items into my be-tissues vendor at WP in my sig...thx!

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PlainWhiteSocks
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:06 pm
#24



I8TheWorm wrote:


MataHairy wrote:


Cindal wrote:


Psychopyro80 wrote:
Please be advised, you may get complaints from Tailors because of tissues not working. Also do not use your old crated SC/RFP if you are a BE/Tailor. The mods from pre Publish 18 will not work as well.

That Scent Camofulage no longer works doesn't make sense as there were no changes to this tissue with CU or Pub 17. Did it change with Pub 18? If it did, in what respect did it change?

These Stealth nerfs/changes to our profession are getting old.




It's not a stealth nerf, it's SOE and its spaghetti code. They pull on one end and something unexpectedly changes on another. My favorite example was when they fixed image designer and broke all crafting.






An inherent problem with combining object oriented programming with a revolving door in the development team is exactly what we've seen with regards to bugs in SWG. I can't say I really blame the devs, but I do take issue with the software architect(s) and project managers. Those folks should be sent to Singapore for their form of punishment.




I don't mind bugs sneaking in. It's big, it's complex, and it's bound to have bugs. The part I don't like, is when they know about the bug on TC then push it live. The part that worries me the most is that myself and alot of other people are getting used to this.



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I8TheWorm
Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:19 am
#25

Yeah, I have to say I've NEVER worked on a development team that thought it was ok to go ahead and publish code with known bugs in it. That's shameful.

No word yet on a fix I assume?



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TheRedeyeJedi
Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:09 am
#26

you never worked on a dev team that answered to god himself.



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