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Thread: Prices
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TomoRainer
Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:51 pm
#170
Charging for slicing based on a cpu cost is crazy talk. What we're charging for here is our time, our skill, and because we're bad dudes. At 15K, it's a bargain.
P.S. This thread stinks of the tomb
P.S. This thread stinks of the tomb
Message Edited by TomoRainer on 04-09-2005 01:56 PM
DaSampla
Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:02 pm
#171
Triggertime wrote:im sure its different for each server, but i was wondering what a good price to charge would be for slicing armor and weapons..i do 5k a slice or each piece of armor, and if its less than 20% slice its free..but for a full suit of comp that can come to 45k, and that seems a little much to me. so i was just wondering what you think is a good charging price
Why charge nothing if a slice is below a certain percentage? Any improvement is a bonus - I'm baffled.
maxtheusher
Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:52 pm
#172
Kilroy0846 wrote:
MISTagent01 wrote:
Kilroy0846 wrote:
MISTagent01 wrote:I charge 10-15K on Scylla, depending on my mood and the attitude of the person that wants a slice.|337-speakers get charged quadruple.! c|-|4rg3 6k p3r s|_!c3 0|\| sc'/ll4. Before i became smuggler i hated people who charged 10k and above...grr!Yeah, but you're not Scylla's Hottest Scoundrelles...people pay more for a hot twi'lek.That still dosent give you the right to over charge people for slices!
Lets do the math...
you can buy crates of percision laser knives and molecular clamps for 2k - 6k for a crate of 25 on Scylla or you can make your own with 1 cpu resources for little more than 2k creds a crate.
Then you can buy AUKs/WUKs for 2k-6k for a crate of 25...
Lets say you slice one weapon ,charging 6k/slice, using tools that you made yourself except for WUKs (since these are harder to find i put the price at 6k a crate)
you use one molecular clamp (80creds) one two charges from one precision laserknife (8creds) and one WUK (240 creds)
Total Cost: 328 credits
Profit: 5675 credits
Veela's Profit: 9672 credits, or 19672 credits
i think that is way to much profit no matter if you are "Scylla's Hottest Scoundrelless"
Message Edited by Kilroy0846 on 04-09-2005 01:45 PM
First off, you're being charged with sorcery for necroing this thread. Second of all, I charge 15k non-negotiable, 85% of the people who hear my price agree right away, I've sliced TWO full suits of comp for one guy at that price, plus 3 weapons for him. Most of the slices were speed and encumbrance
in fact, the first suit of comp was ALL encumbrance low percentages too. Still charged full price. He thanked me profusely. 10% of the people who hear my price shout WTMF!!!!111!!!! and don't send any further tells... for a few days, then they see my tag, are too dumb to remember they already said no to my price, and I get the same WTMF!!!!!111!!!!And 5% think I'm undercutting at 15k.
I originally started charging 15k because I figured, okay, I DON'T actually want to slice, and this way, if people agree to my price, at least I'm making a nice, as you pointed out, approximately what, 300x profit? As it turns out a lot of people agree to my price and so I rarely actually spend any money on buffs and the like. It's like beer money.
I have absolutely no problem charging that much, because that is the MINIMUM I feel my time is worth.
Zhagadska
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:21 pm
#173
this was only a 2 month necro...i've done way worse then that (just ask Yimaz).
as for pricing, most smugglers i know charge 10k on eclipse. I charge 8k to undercut them 
most customers however still use the "100 cr per % is standard" line on me even though they know thats not the case.
Ionscout
Sat May 14, 2005 10:56 am
#174
I'm NOT trying to get a flame going...but why are AS's charging SOO much for armor now. What changed?
HairlessWook
Sat May 14, 2005 11:15 am
#175
The amount of time involved and resourses required as well as waste involved for the upteen schematics we have to make.
Other day I started 500 layers in my factory which are the foundations for ur armor, its been almost 20 hours and theyre still not complete...these 500 layers will make in about 12 hours 124 segs...these 124 segs will make in 3-4 hours 40 cores or three and a half suits. Thats just the time involved with components...then we have to place those cores with in skins and voila' u have ur suit.
Well what about resourses...it takes 1000+ units to make one core. Each piece of armor requires a different amount of cores. Ceratin resourses particularly hide are and can be very expensive per unit...especiallly if u want good or uber quality resourses so u can make good or uber quality armor.
Talk to the dev's about this. We as AS's are not try to give the combat classes the shaft...we're just playin the hand we are dealt.
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BigfootKC
Sat May 14, 2005 11:40 am
#176
what he said, i just put my segments cooking... 55 hours till completed. After that ill have to use those segments in Cores which will likely take the same amount of time.
All this requires resources, and the requirements have gone up since CU. Another part in this price IMO is that ppl charge 3-4mill for resource kits on Sunrunner... sure theyre rewards but why sell em at 100cpu if you expect to buy armor cheaper???
All this requires resources, and the requirements have gone up since CU. Another part in this price IMO is that ppl charge 3-4mill for resource kits on Sunrunner... sure theyre rewards but why sell em at 100cpu if you expect to buy armor cheaper???
egoe
Sat May 14, 2005 1:48 pm
#177
Basically we got fooked hard on resource increases, new schematics with more specific resources, more sub components, increased factory times, older subcomponents not converting as well as pre-nerf crated armor not converted. Most Restablished AS i know are not trying to gouge. Just the opposite, they are trying to figure out a way to be somewhat profitable with a weaker armor that costs us a ton more in time, credits and resources.
None of us feel good about. So please let the devs know that some of their crap splattered on the combat class when they took a dump on the AS community.
None of us feel good about. So please let the devs know that some of their crap splattered on the combat class when they took a dump on the AS community.
Ebiawo
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:53 am
#178
hi all,
im ws now since almost a year but i only crafted for the guild / friends needs. As i'm running out of credits i finaly have to sell some of my weapons.
i have several pistols (dl44, scatters) in the DPS range from 290-320 - is there a common price-calculation or a range for what they sell (for example 300 dps for ..., 310 dps for ...) ?
any tips for prices would be helpful 
Summerflame
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:19 am
#179
Best advice I can give you is to check the prices of other WS on your server and then compare your weapon to theirs price accordingly
Thats how I did it when I first started out and it seemed to work just fine.
Hope it helps good luck on going public
gassygunslinger
Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:06 pm
#180
Alrighty... I'd first off like to say I'm against Plan B, but as it looks, there's no use fighting anymore. I might as well make a buck out of it (282 upgrade kits worth). Now, I was wondering, since I have to good characters on TC, how much we are talking about charging for this stuff? How rare is it? And (ifyouknow) what's rarer than others? I suggest we all do NOT take account of the converted stuff when we price this, and ONLY base it on assuming it is all looted (because anyone who stocked up on the stuff will probably have read these forums about it, there's a good chance that they will read this too, and if we don't lower prices for the converted stuff, we all have a good shot at making some doe).We need to set the prices standard so we can all make cash. I'm wondering though, is it rare enough that it's worth 2 million a piece? Or is it only worth like 200k? Some info on this would be great, as I am reallysh*t out of luck for info here.Also, I'd like to base this on the COMPONENTS themselves, without adding slicing inflation.
Wretrut
Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:03 am
#181
Ok,
thanks to my lovely guild getting some of the Lvl3 parts i can now do slices on armour and weapons.
Just as a matter of interest, considering some of the rip off prices peeps are charging for the actual parts, what price is good for lvl3 and lvl4 slices on weapons and armour.
I was pretty reasonable preCU but now i'm feeling a bit meaner.
cheers
thanks to my lovely guild getting some of the Lvl3 parts i can now do slices on armour and weapons.
Just as a matter of interest, considering some of the rip off prices peeps are charging for the actual parts, what price is good for lvl3 and lvl4 slices on weapons and armour.
I was pretty reasonable preCU but now i'm feeling a bit meaner.
cheers
DARTHBAYLOR
Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:22 am
#182
Going by the prices on the trade boards , i'd say you need to be a multi millionare to be a ble to afford slices /ney anything now , prices have gone thru the roof , just like faction armor , the new " handy everyday version , if you've got the cash!?!" they gave us after the cu , Just sell the booldy things on the trade boards , quicker an less painless way to get the big cash , also saves you having to explain over and over about the new slicing system..
my 2 cents.
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