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Thread: hows this for a non ch pet?

neinnunb
Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:07 am
#1

A CL 9 critter with around 6k HAM ???


Isnt this like overpowerering and totally unbalanced? I mean dont get me wrong its great, but that makes probots useless now for DE's to sell.




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WeezLtheDrunKn
Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:18 am
#2

Uhhh last time I checked this is not he DE board its the BE board...


Now tell my why again I am supposed to care about the DE's?



and that is a nice Durni! I too made a CL8 Gnort with Picket DNA and got a reasonable non-ch pet, but not as good as yours...did you use all Picket DNA? and which pickets? I have been trying combinations of Plainswalkers and Protectors, Got the resists but not the HAM you got...





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Elioi
Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:48 am
#3

I have to say - I had the most fun i've ever had in SWG today with the new cloning system and im only 1-1-1-0. I made a Kwi as a personal pet - lv 8 with two specials stunning strike and KNOCKDOWN! I was giddy it was so much fun. and speeders make dna harvesting soo much easier - I have virtually no cambat training, no prob running from 10 aggros on endor withouth incap once (although close a couple of times )
Direpath
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:50 am
#4

I gotta call BS on this one...I used Bol and Piket DNA (both are the same CH level) and I ended up with similar HAM to you...however the CL was 21...not 9.


The highest HAM you are going to be seeing on non-CH critters will is probably going to be around 1000.




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KillerCRS
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:20 am
#5

LoL, Ive just been grinding BE up and am still a novice. I keep using the dna samples to make templates just to clear them from inventory while grinding sampling.


I did notice befor i deleted one thugh, after trying some sampling on Dant. It looks like it may just make a below cl10 pet, low quality DNA from trash on Tattoinne, and one Graul mauler I believe, but the specials came out as dizzy and knockdown. I think I'll make a cupa with it

Yewrev
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:23 am
#6

I made a level 10 with 2388 health 15% kinetic mild disease around 130 damage .


I had a very hard time getting under level 12 This was about 6th generation using recycled DNA. Finaly stuck a low level wild sample in Psycological slot (seems recycles have around 1k dependability).


This took about 2 hours, I find it easier to make this that it is a level 10!


Level 39


11K health 8kAction Mind


60% kinetic, light armor


490 damage


Strong Poison, Blind, Ranged





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Loper
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:25 am
#7

I tried to make one non-CL pet right before I logged for the night. I took some samples of a womp rat (lvl 10 variety) until I got 5 that were either HQ or VHQ. I assembled and experimented as usual.

The result? CL 16 with about 4k ham.

WHAT???

I'll need to do some more playing with the low end as most of my experiments last night were with mid-to-high lvl stuff, but this is again driving home the idea that we REALLY need to be able to see the CL of the template during experimentation to at least see if we're jumping it up by accident.



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Tymora
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:36 am
#8



t00deep wrote:
CLVL: 9
health: 6.9k
action: 6.5k
mind: 5.8k
25% kinetic, energy, blast, cold, electricity
(no armor)
150-160 damage at 2.17 speed

my white durni of death

im only 0-0-2-2 bio engie, so im wondering what you masters are making in the non CH range?

btw i used piket DNA from dantooine




Lowest level creature ive been able to make is a lvl 25 graul outa bol AA dna. Though i havent sampled any creatures under lvl 29.



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neinnunb
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:13 pm
#9






WeezLtheDrunKn wrote:

Uhhh last time I checked this is not he DE board its the BE board...


Now tell my why again I am supposed to care about the DE's?


and that is a nice Durni! I too made a CL8 Gnort with Picket DNA and got a reasonable non-ch pet, but not as good as yours...did you use all Picket DNA? and which pickets? I have been trying combinations of Plainswalkers and Protectors, Got the resists but not the HAM you got...





Its called BALANCEing the game you idiot... this latest patch is all about balancing PETS and if we (yes I am a BE) can make a CL 10 pet that is better than a probot, then DE's will not sell one of them. Creatures AND Droids fall into all of this new creature balance if you havent noticed or taken the effort to read. Excuse me for careing about other professions.



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Huannosora
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:38 pm
#10

hehe, and I was happy with my "ubergnort," CL 20, 5k HAM and blind/cripple attack. I was just messing around testing out the new crafting system, but now I'm having a blast trying to make traditionally low level creatures with high HAM and specials I'll have to see what I can do to bring down the CL. No idea why but these little killer bunnies crack me up.



That's one nice durni.



I think I'll be spending the evening trying to make super gnorts



Does anyone know a good resource with a list of what creatures have what kinds of resists and specials? Besides walking up and examing it, I mean? I'm afraid I'm realizing I don't know as much as I should about the things I poke needles into.



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FunkychickenX
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:42 pm
#11

I think there is still a balance here. A droid engineer can take a couple stacks of resources, and do a factory run of 50 probots. Bio Engineers need to run around to different planets, take time to sample, and tweak, and then make 1 pet. Granted that pet could be better than a probot (okay, is better than a probot), but will be much more expensive and harder to come by. BE non-ch pets will be the caddilac's of the Non-CH world.



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t00deep
Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:30 pm
#12

CLVL: 9
health: 6.9k
action: 6.5k
mind: 5.8k
25% kinetic, energy, blast, cold, electricity
(no armor)
150-160 damage at 2.17 speed

my white durni of death

im only 0-0-2-2 bio engie, so im wondering what you masters are making in the non CH range?

btw i used piket DNA from dantooine



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Germaine
Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:23 pm
#13

Well, here is proof or a pretty good CL9 Dewback I created last night from 2 Rogue Fambaa and 3 Ikopi Dna samples, in thjat order:


http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23611


(Note that this is below the CL 10 limit for Dewbacks on Talthazar's website)


Experminentation was into Physique and Prowess and I didn't have any experminentation into Mental, which may explain the low CL, along with the low Damage. I tried many other variations of this with experimentation into Mental as well and always got CL at 15 or above......


Going to have this trained and used as a Mount/Tank for my non-CH main (Gromo), but will keep trying with other combinations.


I remain convinced that BEs need to be concentrating on the low-end non-CH market with combos such as this to make good combos of mounts that can tank......with the changes to CH that have occurred, there will be many more folks that are looking for a good mount/tank to replace their nerfed ones, and this community will be the ones that provide them




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