Bio Engineer Archive

Thread: Why are Bio's giving away chef schematics?

Mapai
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:03 am
#1

Do they not think that Bio's are a legitimate proffession? Do they think that No Bio deserves to get paid for their work to make master? Do they think that the devs were wrong to make us be part of the chef food equation? and thereby no Bios that want to sell them should be allowed to?



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ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:36 am
#2

This has been discussed to death


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bio-engineer&message.id=60211


But for some reason it seems to be becoming even more of an issue today. Perhaps it is because the price of brandy has fallen quite a bit and chefs are looking for new ways to save credits (or should I say make more credits). In any case, it's almost a nightly occurance now that I'm asked for a schematic, and my reply is always the same: "I don't do that, if you need tissues I sell them at pretty reasonable prices but I'm not going to cut my own throat by selling, much less giving away schematics".





ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


notrom
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:40 am
#3

if your wondering what sparked map to do this its well me lol read here


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Intrepid&message.id=256361


i do not have to justify my self to any one. If you dont like it and are on intrepid, feel free to flame there /\. If your not on intrepid it dosent really concern you.





Eafie Iceiss - intrepid - Zab -
master medic/doc/swordsman
Mapai
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:42 am
#4

Sorry had to vent. Brandy prices are still really high and climbing on intrepid and eclipse, so I haven't noticed the prices coming down.



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Intrepid- Catio Swordsman/Doctor
Eclipse- Mapai Master Smuggler/Pistoleer/TKA
Eclipse- Eihou Master Swordsman/Fencer/Brawler
Intrepid- Ataut Dark Jedi Knight
Loot Vendor 453, -4812 Tal Valor, Naboo
SYNISTER YET NOBLE
notrom
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:47 am
#5

oh yea dont feel bad, i did this when the bradny wasent in and my alt ws a 2 4 2 4 smuggler with muon schematics. AND I planned on staying smug lol



Eafie Iceiss - intrepid - Zab -
master medic/doc/swordsman
Mapai
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:50 am
#6

Actually you were the second BE to offer Schematics. You posted your reasons, there are others that are doing the same. I am really trying to understand the logic.



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Intrepid- Catio Swordsman/Doctor
Eclipse- Mapai Master Smuggler/Pistoleer/TKA
Eclipse- Eihou Master Swordsman/Fencer/Brawler
Intrepid- Ataut Dark Jedi Knight
Loot Vendor 453, -4812 Tal Valor, Naboo
SYNISTER YET NOBLE
ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:51 am
#7






notrom wrote:

i do not have to justify my self to any one. If you dont like it and are on intrepid, feel free to flame there /\. If your not on intrepid it dosent really concern you.








Yet you feel the need to go into a BE forum and make this post, hmm.


Cool, do what you want. It won't make a difference one way or another. Particularly since it sounds like you are just "passing through". All I can hope is that whatever profession you land in has someone equally clueless giving away their products and services for free as well.



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


densinwahl
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:53 am
#8

I have one response,



I am a chef(well my alt is) and I have contracted to a Bio-Engineer to make a schematic for me. I collected all the resources and will pay them around 3-400K for this service.


The reason:>>>>>EMPTY BIO VENDORS I just cant find any, believe me I have tried, every planet, using the map to set waypoints to all vendors, and nothing left.


Not to dis him, cause Nolof is cool, but he does a lot of business, and buys a TON of the enhancements, which doesn't leave much left for the rest of us.


If a Bio wants to sell to me, I am more than willing to pay, but it seems the schematics are the only option I have right now.


And for prices, I sell Bio Enhanced Brandy for 200K for a crate of 25, why? cause of resource costs, time componets, factories, and on and on..... will I lower prices with a schematic, probably. Is my brandy the best? NO, because I only have the 10 points you get with master chef and the best I can get is 401m/f/w for 41m30s fill 50, stack of 18.


I try, but I have seen weaker ones sold for more on intrepid so I think I am being fair.






Densin Wahl
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notrom
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:55 am
#9

master doctor, mainly keep it to buff my self, but its good for a quick buck. i will end up md / elite combat ( either sword or tk).

so some clueless person or another like me will not hurt me finacianlly. i am passing through trying to get my glowing baseball bat. the schematics wont last long after i make them, and the rescourses that i made them with wont last long. Granted Long enuf for me to do some damage. Hey its fun to be the Bad guy.



Eafie Iceiss - intrepid - Zab -
master medic/doc/swordsman
Mapai
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:05 am
#10

Quote :

I am a chef(well my alt is) and I have contracted to a Bio-Engineer to make a schematic for me. I collected all the resources and will pay them around 3-400K for this service.



You are not asking for this for free, and paying a large amount for what you are asking for. I am puzzled by the ones that make the schematic for free, or extremly cheap, and yes I know all to well what a pain it is to gather the resources. There are some Bio's that make their ingame living selling tissues. I do ok at it, only cause I get my own resources. I post paying 25 cpu for meat and people laugh at me, docs are paying 50-150 cpu for meat, no way I could pay that and sell my product.



Intrepid- Mapai FS Bounty Hunter
Intrepid- Catio Swordsman/Doctor
Eclipse- Mapai Master Smuggler/Pistoleer/TKA
Eclipse- Eihou Master Swordsman/Fencer/Brawler
Intrepid- Ataut Dark Jedi Knight
Loot Vendor 453, -4812 Tal Valor, Naboo
SYNISTER YET NOBLE
Groid
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:16 am
#11

I am a chef, with a BE given access to my house. He uses my materials to make schematics, places them on MY factories, and then.. he kidnaps my pet cat (ali) and sends me a ransom note, normally for a million credits.


I laugh, and pay the fee. When he needs credits, he kidnaps my cat again. When he needs food, he helps himself.


Am I overpaying for the additives I use?


Mokianna-bria server


Myonax
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:24 am
#12

What is a resonable price for a schematic using a chef's materials? I charged 10k per schematic the other day and he seemed happy with that (as a matter of fact he tipped me 80k for 3 schematics). AmI too low? I don't want to hurt bio-es that actually make a living off of additives (I make my living off of pets).
Mapai
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:36 am
#13

I really don't know the fair price for the schematic, I wish I knew more of the cost structure of the chef foods. If you are friends with the guy, or you dont mind doing it, because the chef is passing the savings on to the customer. I have not seen that, the chef charges the same price, and gets a nicer profit margin, and in turn cuts the BE out of the picture. I am not really worried, as the resources are the hard thing to gather. (meat) I don't know about you guys but I have a hard time competing with docs and armorsmiths for harvested resoruces and not get a earfull from a chef saying I am trying to gouge them. I offer 25 cpu for meat and not one person drops 1 unit off. Docs on eclipse are paying up to 200 cpu for meat.



Intrepid- Mapai FS Bounty Hunter
Intrepid- Catio Swordsman/Doctor
Eclipse- Mapai Master Smuggler/Pistoleer/TKA
Eclipse- Eihou Master Swordsman/Fencer/Brawler
Intrepid- Ataut Dark Jedi Knight
Loot Vendor 453, -4812 Tal Valor, Naboo
SYNISTER YET NOBLE
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