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Thread: Chef foods for BE's?
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cl0kwerq
Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:22 am
#1
Seems kinda odd that a profession that helps out chef so much doesn't get the same in return.
I'm currently grinding through DNA sampling, and was wondering if anyone knows of any chef food that helps with frequency of success, or less aggression from creatures. So far I've narrowed down the foods that would help to there:
Jawa Beer - Mask Scent bonus
Travel biscuits- Terrain Negotiation (I use my bike 99% of the time)
Now here's the questionable ones:
Almond Kwavuu Biscuits - Taming bonus
Veghash - Creature Harvesting
Ormachek - Experience bonus
Now the first two have obvious uses, but it's arguable that taming and/or harvesting would play some kind of role in creature DNA sampling. Ormachek I put up there becuase it's a little questionable whether DNA sampling would fall under the crafting exemption.
Any input would be great, thanks.
Halthron
Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:02 am
#2
You left off the one I won't make pets without, Pyollian Cake. Gives a bonus to the assembly roll so that you have a lesser chance of a critical failure. In fact, I've never had a crit failure on the next combine after eating some.
LloydPickering
Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:22 pm
#3
Bespin Port can be handy too. Makes experimentation more succesful.
Spazzers
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:49 pm
#4
Brandy for you mind. Jawa beer to mask scent. Chefs can indeed be a huge asset for a BE.
PlainWhiteSocks
Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:42 pm
#5
Jawa beer isn't a chef thing. The best jawa beer I ever got was made by a tailor that was also a master artisan.
WobbleMin
Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:01 am
#6
Almond Kwavuu Biscuits - Taming bonus
Veghash - Creature Harvesting
I would think they are more for CH than BE, unless if ur both BE/CH or need to harvest animal resources.
As for the Jawa Beer, true that its a Artisan product.
AS for Ormachak, doesnt seem to work on my server...
Wibblo Wobble Koolbacca
M/Chef, M/Doc, BE - novice
Veghash - Creature Harvesting
I would think they are more for CH than BE, unless if ur both BE/CH or need to harvest animal resources.
As for the Jawa Beer, true that its a Artisan product.
AS for Ormachak, doesnt seem to work on my server...
Wibblo Wobble Koolbacca
M/Chef, M/Doc, BE - novice
Woe_icoby
Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:29 am
#7
yeah ormachek isnt really worth it unless you find some really cheap, its bonus is too small to really make much of a difference to xp you gain.
Aleskander
Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:38 am
#8
While the p.cake is good for pets, bespin port doesn't work when making DNA templates but it great when making tissues or additives especially when you're using the really good resources.
Zadokk
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:14 am
#9
Aleskander wrote:
While the p.cake is good for pets, bespin port doesn't work when making DNA templates but it great when making tissues or additives especially when you're using the really good resources.
meh, when making BSN schems I usually had 1 point left over tbh. only time i used bespin port was when i was using rare dna, e.g. MR.
sciguyCO
Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:05 pm
#10
Taming bonus: acts as a bonus to a CH's success when taming a creature. AFAIK, this has no bearing on DNA sampling.
Creature harvesting: gives a bonus to the number of resources gathered by a scout /harvesting hide/bone/meat from a slain creature. Again, AFAIK, this doesn't apply to DNA (although I'm perfectly ok with being proven wrong).
Ormachek: From my experience, this gives a 4 or 5% bonus (depending on quality) to any xp that shows up as a system message. Crafting xp doesn't, so it won't help you gain creature crafting xp any faster. I haven't done BE, so I don't know from first-hand experience how DNA sampling xp is displayed, or if the gain per sample is high enough for Ormachek to really matter. It works best with large xp gains, it seems especially popular with pilots grinding on Tier5 mobs. Although on the other hand, even if you get 100 or so sampling xp per attempt, being under the influence of Ormachek makes it so that for every 20-25 gains, you get one "free". The filling is pretty high on this, though, so depending on how long it takes to use up the 15-18 xp gains you probably can't be under its influence 100% of the time.
And of course, there's the stat buff foods. Does DNA sampling itself use any health, action, or mind? Or do you only have to worry about that if you tick off the creature you're poking with a needle?
There are a couple incap reduction items: Starshine Surprise (roughly 50% reduction) or Cavaellian Creams (70-99% reduction, 100% or greater is possible but bugged) can pop you back up quicker. Although unless the creature has un-aggroed, you have to get off a heal pretty quick or you're going back down again.
Jawa Beer andTravel Biscuits are both Artisan foods, so unless a chef has taken the engineering tree in Artisan (for the extra general crafting experimentation)in addition to the Dom Arts chef pre-requisites, a dedicated Artisan can make better ones. Just don't forget to supply them with some Micronutrients for that added boost. 
Message Edited by sciguyCO on 02-05-2005 01:06 AM
Aleskander
Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:14 pm
#11
I haven't tried to use bespin port while crafting DNA templates....I say a post here a long time ago saying it doesn't work since the way DNA is experimented on is so different than the normal crafting the system doesn't "see" the benifits of the bp.
yeah, I normally have extra points when crafting chef additives except when I'm using uber organics, then if I only get "great successes" I'll run out of experiment points. Bespin Port helps ensure I don't waste resources if I can't cap the experimentation.
Zadokk
Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:34 pm
#12
Aleskander wrote:
I haven't tried to use bespin port while crafting DNA templates....I say a post here a long time ago saying it doesn't work since the way DNA is experimented on is so different than the normal crafting the system doesn't "see" the benifits of the bp.
I believe it has since been fixed.
Grozurr
Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:10 pm
#13
"The cake" as i call if for assembly and such. i really like it and whenever using it i haven't gotten a crit failure (GREAT help for pet making. just discovered how helpful this stuff is for be's and i'm loving it.
brandy/ahrisa for mind when sampling
canape on occasion for sampling
jawa beer will be very helpful i anticipate (when i get it)
bespin port- helpful for experimenting and reducing the production time on suppliments. I've used it once or twice on pets, but i unfortunately ended up creating a lvl 76 pet, so i'm not so sure if i'll use it as much in the future.
Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel
brandy/ahrisa for mind when sampling
canape on occasion for sampling
jawa beer will be very helpful i anticipate (when i get it)
bespin port- helpful for experimenting and reducing the production time on suppliments. I've used it once or twice on pets, but i unfortunately ended up creating a lvl 76 pet, so i'm not so sure if i'll use it as much in the future.
Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel
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