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Thread: Are the tissues actually worth.... ?!?

Albion_DeCrappa
Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:29 am
#1

So are these tissues created using Milk actually worth the 1 million credit price tag on a stack of 25 milk? Am I even going to come close to making back that money when I sell the product? Not to mention that 1 million will only go for one chance at one tissue.


What do you all think?


-Al




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keetha3
Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:33 am
#2

I sell the taming tissues that need milk (25 units) for 150k.
Tal-N
Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:41 am
#3

Considering how it only improves your chances of a successful tame I don't think they're worth that much really, you still cannot control or tame creatures of a level higher than your normally allowed. The tissues simply make your success rate higher.



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Echinacea
Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:58 am
#4

In my never-humble opinion...no. They're not worth wasting your time finding milk, either by buying it or looting it yourself. All the +Taming Vicious/Wild Creatures does is make it easier to tame and train what you can already tame and train. It does not let a Creature Handler tame or train or pull out any creature of a level higher than they could while not wearing +Taming clothes.


If a CH would find it worth their time/money to have clothing that would decrease the failure rate for taming and training clothes, cool. But I don't think most of them would find that in the least bit interesting.


It was an expensive lesson for me (700k for the milk that I made +17/+17 taming tissues out of), but at least I learned from it. And now I know to never bother again.




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BraccusD
Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:23 am
#5

Actually there is a benefit to the CH dabbler (2 2 0 0) who can now use a graul mauler instead of needing to get (3 2 0 0). I never got the milk but did get a +2 taming clothing attachment early in the game. Using boots with this in it allowed me to tame and use a graul mauler. If I take the boots off, I cannot call the mauler.



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Echinacea
Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:33 am
#6

BraccusD, are you referring to a Skill Enhancement Attachment tape that was looted from an NPC and dropped into a clothing socket after the clothing item's creation, or a bio-engineered tissue that was included as an optional component in the creation of a Synthetic Cloth panel and thereafter made into an item of clothing?


Since you say +2 and boots, I have to assume it's the former. This is a totally different ball o' wax than what we can make with milk.


I have worn two items of clothing totalling +34 taming vicious & wild creatures when I still had CH skills, and was not able to tame a CL 30 bol deed that was just out of my reach (I was able to tame CL 25 non-aggro critters, and bol are non-aggro, i.e. not viscious). (And yes, I know that +25 is the cap to all skill mods. I had on a shirt and pants with +17 tissues in each.)




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Tal-N
Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:46 am
#7

Yeah they're be able to use a graul mauler at 2/2/0/0 ... for 3 weeks. But is that worth what is almost 1 million credits especially when apparently the new cloning system will come in as well so us bio-engineers are going to make graul maulers useless since we can make things superior to them but have the same CL rating and give them any kind of resistances and special attacks we want.



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BraccusD
Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:32 pm
#8

I never said the milk was worth it. A guy last night wanted to know if I was interested in buying milk from him and I told him to take a hike (I didn't even ask the price). Tal is right, you should remind people that want these that this will all become moot when CH changes come. For now I'm just glad I can stay a CH 2 2 0 0 and use a mauler tho without it costing me a thing. All I was saying is that, yes, there is a benefit to a specific type of CH tho small. And I'm proud to be one of the dabblers causing the nerf (although I would really not want the master CHs to get nerfed).




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Daishar_Valcyn
Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:58 pm
#9

As has been noted, the BE CH mod tissues don't have any impact on the max level of creatures you can tame. It just increases the chance of being successful when trying to tame a creature that you already have the skill for. While handy, it's really not worth that price unless you're boredand havemoney to burn.





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S0F
Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:55 pm
#10

i dont understand how the CH changes will make this tissue more or less effective.


and the answer to the question in the subject line is: yes they are worth millions of credits - to some people, otherwise they wouldnt sell for millions. if you are asking what they normally go for, the answer is they dont normally go. milk is such a pain to gather that supply curve is practically vertical. im not saying its respectable business practices to sell one for millions (not that i wouldnt if someone offered me that), but at that supply they are simply worth "highest offer."




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Albion_DeCrappa
Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:25 pm
#11

But are people willing to pay millions for something like a Spec-Ops duster made with Bio-Enginered Fiber panels, especially with decay in the game. Does it really give millions of credits worth of advantage?




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oaktree68
Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:10 pm
#12

I dont know SOF, they are worth millions to the ignorant I believe. I've had a few people ask me to use milk they had gathered to make a tissue. I just plain wont do it no matter how much cash. The fact that most of the people prey on other peoples lack of knowledge sickens me. So yes, they may be worth millions to the poor soul who believes he will never need to go above 2/2/x/x in CH to control a Graul, he just doesnt know its not gonna last very long. Plain wrong imo.

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Daishar_Valcyn
Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:09 am
#13

Actually, I take that back....I forgot my CH skill tree for a moment. That plus to wild/vicious creatures would certainly come in handy right there at 2/2/0/0 wouldn't it. Forgot the CL was 35 already at 2/2/0/0



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