Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Doctors listen up!
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Loviza
Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:15 pm
#1
Go back immediatly to our forums and leave the BEs alone for now. Until CU is released I still consider all parts of the medicine crafting OURS. Going over here to the BE forum is just a way of saying to SOE "We are happy how you destroy our profession, please go onyou misseda spot here let me show you."
LloydPickering
Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:30 pm
#2
Loviza wrote:Go back immediatly to our forums and leave the BEs alone for now. Until CU is released I still consider all parts of the medicine crafting OURS. Going over here to the BE forum is just a way of saying to SOE "We are happy how you destroy our profession, please go on you missed a spot here let me show you."
If only the 1* button was still available!
If docs do not come here and talk with us about the changes to our profession then how are the devs supposed to figure out what we(BEs and Docs) want?
They are not going to give the med crafting back to Docs...they've thought about it too much. What we should be doing is be constructive and find a way for us to work together to prevent growing pains when this goes live...and it will. I don't like getting the Med schems, and think that both docs and BEs are getting screwed over, but some people need to stop acting like spoilt kids and get on with working out how we will adapt.
...and if you really can't adapt...then you can always cancel your subscription...thats where it REALLY hurts them.
Aleskander
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:24 pm
#3
LloydPickering wrote:
If only the 1* button was still available!
If docs do not come here and talk with us about the changes to our profession then how are the devs supposed to figure out what we(BEs and Docs) want?
They are not going to give the med crafting back to Docs...they've thought about it too much. What we should be doing is be constructive and find a way for us to work together to prevent growing pains when this goes live...and it will. I don't like getting the Med schems, and think that both docs and BEs are getting screwed over, but some people need to stop acting like spoilt kids and get on with working out how we will adapt.
...and if you really can't adapt...then you can always cancel your subscription...thats where it REALLY hurts them.
QFE
MataHairy
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:24 pm
#4
We are having 3 communities being thrown together, not by our choice - BEs, Crafting Docs and Crafting CMs. We need to work together to bemeld into abig happy family and not take up "us" vs. "them" attitudes.
TarMangani
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:48 pm
#5
Loviza wrote:
Go back immediatly to our forums and leave the BEs alone for now. Until CU is released I still consider all parts of the medicine crafting OURS. Going over here to the BE forum is just a way of saying to SOE "We are happy how you destroy our profession, please go onyou misseda spot here let me show you."
1. We're not here discussing how the best way to make a buff pack is,that is the side of med crafting that belongs in the doctor forum (for a very brief time).
2. Your post makes you sound like some sort of "forum cop."
3. Coming over here isnot a way of telling SOE we like what they've done, because all SOE would have to do is read the threads to realize that's not the truth at all! However we're also smart enough to realize that if we want to craft, we're going to become BE's like it or not, so attempting to forge new relationships in an already chaotic forum is one small way we can pave the way for the med crafting nerf when it goes live.
4. Have you even read the threads here that the docs are in?
5. As politely as I can say it...mind your own damn business...
Loviza
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:24 pm
#6
Well I got very dissapointed at our correspondent when he told on the doc forum that crafting shouldnt be handled in the doc forum anymore, but instead on the BE forum. This is utherly nonsence.
Who knows medicine craftings best?
Doctors
Who has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?
Doctors
Wich correspondentis most suitedto handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?
Doctor.
Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?
No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.
Do I care I willprobably looseall Ive worked for due to resource changes?
Yes.My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ivenever been a selling doc, I do free medical care)
Have the CUbeen released yet?
No, so come back to the correct forum.
You thought we wasnt divided enough?
Apparently not.
Right now Im VERYdispleasedwith SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse toobey to this nonsence.
Message Edited by Loviza on 04-15-2005 03:26 AM
TarMangani
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:32 pm
#7
Loviza wrote:
Who knows medicine craftings best?
Doctors
Who has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?
Doctors
Wich correspondentis most suitedto handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?
Doctor.
Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?
No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.
Do I care I willprobably looseall Ive worked for due to resource changes?
Yes.My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ivenever been a selling doc, I do free medical care)
Have the CUbeen released yet?
No, so come back to the correct forum.
You thought we wasnt divided enough?
Apparently not.
Right now Im VERYdispleasedwith SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse toobey to this nonsence.
I...
I have no idea what to even say...
Aleskander
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:37 pm
#8
TarMangani wrote:
Loviza wrote:
Who knows medicine craftings best?
Doctors
Who has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?
Doctors
Wich correspondentis most suitedto handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?
Doctor.
Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?
No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.
Do I care I willprobably looseall Ive worked for due to resource changes?
Yes.My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ivenever been a selling doc, I do free medical care)
Have the CUbeen released yet?
No, so come back to the correct forum.
You thought we wasnt divided enough?
Apparently not.
Right now Im VERYdispleasedwith SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse toobey to this nonsence.
I...
I have no idea what to even say...
hehe...yeah, he's got a point. I can't dissagree with him, BUT....as things currently stand, the CU will shove the meds in BE down our throats.
LloydPickering
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:44 pm
#9
TarMangani wrote:
Loviza wrote:Who knows medicine craftings best?DoctorsWho has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?DoctorsWich correspondent is most suited to handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?Doctor.Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.Do I care I will probably loose all Ive worked for due to resource changes?Yes. My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ive never been a selling doc, I do free medical care)Have the CU been released yet?No, so come back to the correct forum.You thought we wasnt divided enough?Apparently not.Right now Im VERY displeased with SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse to obey to this nonsence.I...
I have no idea what to even say...
...Well I may be putting words in your mouth, but you could say that not a single doc is on this forum talking about how to make buffpacks now...Docs and BEs here are discussing how to merge with as few problems as possible, and that we are talking about future BE products with future BEs. If we were talking about Doc stuff, we'd be in the Doc forums...we are talking about future BE stuff in the BE forums.
Current med crafting belongs in the Doctors forums, near future med crafting belongs here...not because we want it to be here, but because the devs have decided to move it here.
I have to say that I welcome the docs that are joining us. For the many months I have lurked in the BE forums without venturing to other forums often for fear of idiot trolls and flames, I have seen the BE community as a small, but almost 'academic' community. We have debates over contentious issues rather than slagging matches, and it looks as if the majority of the Docs who are moving across share our principles. The points raised so far have all been raised in a cordial manner and even though we are strongly opinionated the threads have not degenerated into personal vendettas.
We realise that people are upset at the moving of Med crafting, but thats not to say that we like it either. I suspect that a lot of the crafting docs may find pet making interesting (unless Pet crafting gets a big nerf)...and hope that pets are more useful after the CURB to cope with the likely increased supply.
TarMangani
Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:10 pm
#10
LloydPickering wrote:
TarMangani wrote:
Loviza wrote:
Who knows medicine craftings best?
Doctors
Who has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?
Doctors
Wich correspondent is most suited to handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?
Doctor.
Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?
No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.
Do I care I will probably loose all Ive worked for due to resource changes?
Yes. My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ive never been a selling doc, I do free medical care)
Have the CU been released yet?
No, so come back to the correct forum.
You thought we wasnt divided enough?
Apparently not.
Right now Im VERY displeased with SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse to obey to this nonsence.
I...
I have no idea what to even say...
...Well I may be putting words in your mouth,
I quote:
"I felt like a man who was making love to a married woman in her bed when her husband walks in, changes his trousers, mutters something about the weather, and then leaves..." - Arthur Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...
Eskie
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:10 am
#11
Loviza wrote:Go back immediatly to our forums and leave the BEs alone for now. Until CU is released I still consider all parts of the medicine crafting OURS. Going over here to the BE forum is just a way of saying to SOE "We are happy how you destroy our profession, please go on you missed a spot here let me show you."
I was here before the doc correspondent pointed people over here, and I was just reading for about 2 weeks before making my first post in this forum.
I am here because I wanted to know what BEs think about the merger of doc crafting, CM crafting (havent seen a CM over here, btw
) and BE crafting.The only things I am posting in this forum deal with CU changes done to the BE profession and how docs being forced over into BE 0004 should be factored in. This part is about post-CU BE crafting, hence discussion in the BE forums.
I am still discussing buffs on live servers in the doc forums, and I am still responding in an appropriate way to people asking for AFK buff bot macros in the doc forums, also. I am also discussing resource differences between old doc schematics and new BE schematics in the doc forums, since it is only affecting the stockpiles of live crafting docs. This part is about being a doctor on the live servers, hence discussion in the doc forums.
TarMangani
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:08 am
#12
TarMangani wrote:
Loviza wrote:
Who knows medicine craftings best?
Doctors
Who has the resources (I still hope the Devs let us use our old resources)?
Doctors
Wich correspondentis most suitedto handle the medicine crafting? BE or Doc?
Doctor.
Do I care that the crafting most likely ends up in the BE tree?
No. Still the same skillpoints. Even has a valid and realistic reason to end up there actually.
Do I care I willprobably looseall Ive worked for due to resource changes?
Yes.My dream will die. (I wont loose any income, Ivenever been a selling doc, I do free medical care)
Have the CUbeen released yet?
No, so come back to the correct forum.
You thought we wasnt divided enough?
Apparently not.
Right now Im VERYdispleasedwith SOE because they give us some very illogical signals regarding their COMBAT upgrade (dunno what the resources had to do with any combat?) and I refuse toobey to this nonsence.
I...
I have no idea what to even say...
Wait! I figured it out! The words came to me in the middle of the night!
5. As politely as I can say it...mind your own damn business...
BraccusD
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:59 am
#13
Personally, my first professions were Doc and BE, and I was that for quite some time. I don't care too much about Docs being here, they my buddies already. So, not all of us BEs don't have all the top resources at our disposal (except no CM stockpile here, was thinking of doing CM,BE fora bit and got some but dropped it). So welcome docs, be sure to read up on base destruction procedures since you might be getting called on for some of that with your 0004 template.
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