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Thread: dna sampling question
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Cephalo
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:24 am
#1
I ran into something kindof strange last night, my first as a BE. I ran into a nest of sharnaffs, and at novice BE, I was able to sample the sharnaffs easily enough, at CL31 but not the sharnaff bulls CL38. I figured the cutoff was 35 or so at novice. So I got my DNA sampling I box on the sharnaffs, and when I came back I still could not sample the sharnaff bulls. Basically, I was very surprised that I could sample a sharnaff at novice, and surprised again that getting a new box wouldn't take me from CL31 to CL38. Are there some animals that simply don't have DNA?
Akelan
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:59 am
#2
No. All creatures have DNA, and anything CL 75 and under can be sampled, but success rates vary with CL of the creature and you might have gotten a sample simply by "bull-headed" persistance.. I sampled several quite high level creatures at novice, and failed most of the time, but occaisionally got a sample.
You're usually better off if you are working your way up to start with lower levels - a single high level sample may bring 300-400 exp but 20 tries to get one are much less productive than 20 successes on creatures that give you 50 exp per sample.
Faambas and Bolle Bols became my favorites on Naboo as I worked my way up, after I had sampling one, and since you can milk them as well as getting DNA at the same time, it is doubly profitable.
LLan
You're usually better off if you are working your way up to start with lower levels - a single high level sample may bring 300-400 exp but 20 tries to get one are much less productive than 20 successes on creatures that give you 50 exp per sample.
Faambas and Bolle Bols became my favorites on Naboo as I worked my way up, after I had sampling one, and since you can milk them as well as getting DNA at the same time, it is doubly profitable.
LLan
boboloco
Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:57 am
#3
ok, was trying to sample dna off pikets and bols... Kept getting failed attempts....Is there a reason for this, and what is the best creatures to sample dna off of, sure its krayts, rancors, and kimos.....but is there others that are reallly good right now? thanks for any help
Kaomond
Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:37 am
#5
boboloco wrote:
ok, was trying to sample dna off pikets and bols... Kept getting failed attempts....Is there a reason for this, and what is the best creatures to sample dna off of, sure its krayts, rancors, and kimos.....but is there others that are reallly good right now? thanks for any help
What level were they? if they were over level 75 you can't get a sample fromt hem anymore, it wil always fail, also (and i know it sounds silly) but check to see if your pack is full, if its full yet again you will always fail. It does seem to me though that i get a lot more fails than i used to since the CU, not sure if i have justbeen unlucky or if the CU has actually had an effect on the fail rate though.
Nilina
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:54 pm
#6
Sorry for the n00bish question that is forthcoming, but....
How in the heck do you sample DNA from an agro mob ??
Thanks in advance for not laughing too hard. 
Merkyna Darksun - Master BE/Chef
Naritus Server
Roycroft
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:41 pm
#7
Mask Scent is your friend.
Iuse +17 pants/shirt, +16 jawa beer and exp IV.
thic
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:42 pm
#8
You need maskscent, cann't reminder if its but I think its 2xxx scout.
Nilina
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:42 pm
#9
Ok, let me see if I got this straight...
And, let me give you some more information...
I'm CL17.
I have Mask Scent. (Exploration 2)
I dont have the Mask Scent clothes, but I can look and see if there are any left on my server for sale.
I can make Jawa Beer.
Now, your saying that with all of the above, I can sneak up on an agro type mob and be able to DNA sample from it ?? And how high level should I expect this to work on ?
A few other questions now....
If I am with a few partners and they agro a mob that I want dna from and Im not in the group or involved with the combat, can I still DNA sample from that mob ? Or does the mob being in combat keep me from doing that regardless of my agro status ?
If I am grouped with a CL80, will mobs that are 70 and naturally agro still attack me ?
Thanks in advance.
Merkyna Darksun
Naritus Server
Roycroft
Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:20 pm
#10
Get as much mask scent as you can and use this macro.
/dismount;
/pause 1;
/sampleDna;
/pause 1;
/target speederbike swoop;
/pause 1;
/mount;
And be ready to move when you agro them. You can give yourself some room after you start the sample....use all of it.
It can take a while to get a few good samples of high level creatures because of failures and them agroing.
I don't know the answer to your group/agro question.
Message Edited by Roycroft on 08-06-2005 08:21 PM
lammergeier
Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:50 pm
#11
Nilina wrote:
Ok, let me see if I got this straight...And, let me give you some more information...I'm CL17.I have Mask Scent. (Exploration 2)I dont have the Mask Scent clothes, but I can look and see if there are any left on my server for sale.I can make Jawa Beer.Now, your saying that with all of the above, I can sneak up on an agro type mob and be able to DNA sample from it ?? And how high level should I expect this to work on ?A few other questions now....If I am with a few partners and they agro a mob that I want dna from and Im not in the group or involved with the combat, can I still DNA sample from that mob ? Or does the mob being in combat keep me from doing that regardless of my agro status ?If I am grouped with a CL80, will mobs that are 70 and naturally agro still attack me ?Thanks in advance.Merkyna DarksunNaritus Server
you can sneak up with maskscent... to a point. maskscent doesn't provide the sneakiness it did before the CL changes.
you can't sample DNA from a target that is in combat, nor while you are engaged in combat with any mob.
if you are grouped with a CL80, you will take less damage per hit. you will still be 'noticed' by mobs based on YOUR toon's CL.
TullFloyd
Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:01 pm
#12
Nilina wrote:
Ok, let me see if I got this straight...
And, let me give you some more information...
I'm CL17.
I have Mask Scent. (Exploration 2)
I dont have the Mask Scent clothes, but I can look and see if there are any left on my server for sale.
I can make Jawa Beer.
Now, your saying that with all of the above, I can sneak up on an agro type mob and be able to DNA sample from it ?? And how high level should I expect this to work on ?
A few other questions now....
If I am with a few partners and they agro a mob that I want dna from and Im not in the group or involved with the combat, can I still DNA sample from that mob ? Or does the mob being in combat keep me from doing that regardless of my agro status ?
If I am grouped with a CL80, will mobs that are 70 and naturally agro still attack me ?
Thanks in advance.
Merkyna Darksun
Naritus Server
i would recomend seeing one of you local rangers and getting a camo kit for the planet you plan on working on instead of masked scent and maybe do like i do and get some friends to provide back up if they agro you
you can sample up to lvl 75 creatures
and you can not get dna from any creature that is in combat wether it is another player or an enviromental advisary if it is attacking you must wait till it is done fighting and if it is stil standing at the end you can try to sample
Magincia
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:20 pm
#13
Okay last night I decided to play on Dant... collect milk and sample dna... so I could be a mad sciencist after a couple of weeks of abstaining.
So I see a wonderful group of Slinking Voitors (lvl 55)... and dolt .. you can not sample from this creature (par-phrased)...???? what ??? so I tried other voitors in the area.. horned works but not the slinking... so has anyone else noted any other oddities in sampling??
I would like to know if we are going to be denied dna samples.... or if this is just a personal bug at the moment...
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