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Thread: Lvl 12 with light armour?

Woe_icoby
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:27 pm
#1

My Kwi

I made this today and it got me wondering if it would be possible to get a similar lvl creature with light armour, the lowest I have heard of is 19 with like 60% resistance (this kwi was actually an offshoot of that recipe kind of), what do you think?



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ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:36 pm
#2

Zad got CL 15 as I recall. I've gotten CL 16 is my personal best (through a crit fail in experimentation) but I've never really tried to push it. My CL 16 still had a bit of damage on him but was probably around the minimum on to-hit. So I dunno.



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LloydPickering
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:49 pm
#3






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:

Zad got CL 15 as I recall. I've gotten CL 16 is my personal best (through a crit fail in experimentation) but I've never really tried to push it. My CL 16 still had a bit of damage on him but was probably around the minimum on to-hit. So I dunno.






If I remember correctly, Zads experiments, seemed to point to an automatic 10 level increase for light armor. This (If I do remember correctly) would suggest that it would be theoretically possible to get a minimum of cl10, however im not sure this would in practice be plausable. Anyway, who would want a critter with the stats of a lvl1 creature just to get light armor (Except a BE ).


Working from my assumptions of what I remember Zads conclusions to be, It should be perfectly possible to hit cl12 with light armor. The main problem is you would likely need to nuke almost everything in order to achieve this. (Not to mention keeping fortitude above 500 on each new genwould likely be a nightmare)


Having not really tried this myself, I would have to say, I suspect it possible, however feel it would be too problematicactually implement.

Message Edited by LloydPickering on 12-15-2004 12:01 PM



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Zadokk
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:49 pm
#4


Yeah 15 was the lowest. I used kept reusing DNA and using slight variations in the stats. Basically the generations looked like this:


CL20 - 19 - 19 -18 - 18 - 18 - 17 - 16 - 16 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5


and so on. Whenever it dropped to level 5, it was virtually identical to the cl15 except it had no armour. This could suggest that there is a hard cap of 10 levels for armour, until I can get my hands onto the dna in the sandbox - i'll never know.


Nice Kwi btw. Pretty good for a BH dabbling in CH i reckon.

Message Edited by Zadokk on 12-15-2004 01:51 AM

ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:59 pm
#5

Zad, when you did that were you doing 5x the previous gen's dna? or were you re-introducing 1st gen (mh) dna?




Zadokk wrote:


Yeah 15 was the lowest. I used kept reusing DNA and using slight variations in the stats. Basically the generations looked like this:


CL20 - 19 - 19 -18 - 18 - 18 - 17 - 16 - 16 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5


and so on. Whenever it dropped to level 5, it was virtually identical to the cl15 except it had no armour. This could suggest that there is a hard cap of 10 levels for armour, until I can get my hands onto the dna in the sandbox - i'll never know.


Nice Kwi btw. Pretty good for a BH dabbling in CH i reckon.

Message Edited by Zadokk on 12-15-2004 01:51 AM








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Zadokk
Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:29 pm
#6






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Zad, when you did that were you doing 5x the previous gen's dna? or were you re-introducing 1st gen (mh) dna?




Zadokk wrote:


Yeah 15 was the lowest. I used kept reusing DNA and using slight variations in the stats. Basically the generations looked like this:


CL20 - 19 - 19 -18 - 18 - 18 - 17 - 16 - 16 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 - 15 - 5 - 5


and so on. Whenever it dropped to level 5, it was virtually identical to the cl15 except it had no armour. This could suggest that there is a hard cap of 10 levels for armour, until I can get my hands onto the dna in the sandbox - i'll never know.


Nice Kwi btw. Pretty good for a BH dabbling in CH i reckon.

Message Edited by Zadokk on 12-15-2004 01:51 AM












it was 5 x previous generation, or when necessary: previous gen - previous gen - junk - junk - previous gen


i would substitute MH into the physique slot to bring up the fortitude if it had dropped.

droid327
Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:05 pm
#7

to get it at CL 12 you'd have to use a CL2 min skin.......from what it looks like, Zad was using a CL 5 min skin




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darkmeh
Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:12 pm
#8

Yes, it's possible to get a lvl 12 with light armor. I'm not sure how useful it would be with all that generational work, but ya never know how good one could make it. I'll have to put this critter on my things-to-do list



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JeCy
Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:37 am
#9


Wow that is one sweet kwi.. And your on chimeara my brand new server woopie ! ! maybe ill have to stop by your shop /grin im in the market for a nice lvl 10 dewback..


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Message Edited by JeCy on 12-15-2004 05:47 AM

Zadokk
Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:40 am
#10






darkmeh wrote:

Yes, it's possible to get a lvl 12 with light armor. I'm not sure how useful it would be with all that generational work, but ya never know how good one could make it. I'll have to put this critter on my things-to-do list




yes i did use dewbacks for most of the research although if i remember rightly, i did try it with a jax skin once as well but AFAICR it wielded no different results. I think I still have one of the cl 15 pets lying around so if I ever go BE again i could try again.

Hylidex
Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:23 am
#11






Zadokk wrote:





darkmeh wrote:

Yes, it's possible to get a lvl 12 with light armor. I'm not sure how useful it would be with all that generational work, but ya never know how good one could make it. I'll have to put this critter on my things-to-do list




yes i did use dewbacks for most of the research although if i remember rightly, i did try it with a jax skin once as well but AFAICR it wielded no different results. I think I still have one of the cl 15 pets lying around so if I ever go BE again i could try again.







How did you manage to kill hardiness without killing fortitude?



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Zadokk
Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:36 am
#12

Pet sample


Pet stats


As you can see they totally suck in terms of damage, to-hit etc. At
that point I was interested in making a balanced pet - just getting the level as
low as possible. I did use dewback skins which was probably a mistake, but
hey, i got a thing for dewwies.


How did I get the hardiness low? I have no idea. I just kept
resampling and re-using DNA. These pets have more recessive DNA than a
hill billy family/

Hylidex
Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:38 am
#13

Wow, Zadokk, it looks like HUNDREDS of MH gave their lives for this experiment.



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