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Thread: Epic Pets CL 70's and evolving their stats beyond!

Ni-Tech
Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:24 am
#1


I started BiO Engineering about a month and a half ago, I only because a BE because on my server and almost every other server I have noticed, not a single MBE knew reallywhat the hellthey were doing. I'm talking aboutcrap pets barely better then wild ones and basically the entire MCH profession being worthless as it always has. I was tired and fed up with it so i took matters into my own hands and went MBE, shortly there after I ran acrossed many many "accidental experiments" that opened my eyes to new ideas and new possibilities. Within the coarse of a few weeks I became to be known as the Best MBE on Kettemoor my pets ranged from CL 1 to 70 with insane stats! CL 70 pets werent even hard to make (till patch 19, now there annoying at best but doable without a headache). My reason for this post is I am completely baffeled by the lack of the Bio Engineering community and the quality of pets.

See theres 2 types of BE's, 1) Monster Mashers: BE's that take random DNA from many animals and mash them together and hope it comes out ok, and 2) Evolutionists: BE's the concentrate on stats and usually DNA from 1 animal they evolve up to the statistics they want. So far I havent met any other Evolutionists and I want to either help the entire BE community understand what it is we are really capable of.

I created a company called Ni-Tech Industries which within 1 months time has grown with over 20 employees (this isnt a guild) and is known server wide as the best BE company on the server. We are even starting to expand our products from pets to other things. Within the pet department we have several types of pets:


Non-CH Enhanced Pets: Normal Non-CH pets all minimum and maximum CL 10 with almost factory perfect identicle stats on

every pet to the maximum status any CL 10 can get.

Enhanced Pets: Normal CH pets from CL 11 - 69.

Evolved Pets: CH Pets that have been de-evolved from CL 70 Pet DNA to maintain a specific stat (usually regeneration).

Epic Evolved Pets: MCH Pets all minimum and maximum CL 70 with insanely high stats acrossed the board.

Evolved Hybrid Pets: CH Pets that have been evolved beyond normal player capacity breaching beyond the Elite Boss Mob

DNA status cap of 1000 (usually regeneration) yielding statistics that are inheard and unimaginable,

like our most recent creation:

Ni-Tech Industries

Evolved Hybrid Tauntaun

(Techorisan)

CL 66

7350 Health

806 Regeneration (thats 1055 endurance, 55 points post the 1000 elite boss mob dna breach!)

183 accuracy

170 defenses

31% state resistances

5% crit

5% crit save

8% aggro taunt mod

98 - 380 dmg

Epic Evolved Hybrid Pets: Same as Evolved Hybrid Pets but CL 70's


In the last month our total revenue was 65,000,000 credits from pet sales alone! What I am looking for is any other MBE whom has ever come close or whom operated in the same way with evolution and not monster mashing. Also if your an MBE on ANY server and want advice or have a question please email me directly in game (email Kettemoor.Draegon) Please no non MBE questions or newbie advice, be patient I have a massive influx of customer orders daily my normal pet prices range from 50k for CL 10 pets to as high as 1 milllion for non Hybrids and 5 million to 10 million for hybrids. My custom order volume is large so I may respond slowly.


Thank you,

Draegon Nitraous

Ni-Tech Industries

"Defying realit to build our dreams!

...changing the future one cell at a time."

goatt_13
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:20 am
#2

are you sure you're on kettemoor?



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BraccusD
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:30 am
#3



Oh yes he is....the ripoff capital of the galaxies it seems. Nothing like tuting your own hornthen coming to the BE forums to saynone of us know what we are doing andthus implying you are the best BE ofALL THE GALAXIES!! LOL!!!


His prices are 500k for a CL69 and 1 mil for a CL70. And he claims he's doing it cause no MBEs on Ket know what they are doing, like he does. I met 2 that do better than him and told him, I bet he tried to recruit them. It's not about the credits man....or at least it isn't for me as an MBE.


I'll give him props tho, he's a great marketer.


I'll never serve your empire of evil tho! NEVER!!!! lol

Message Edited by BraccusD on 07-07-2005 07:52 AM



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CH/Fence and BE/CH
lammergeier
Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:13 am
#4

break 10k on health yet?

how 'bout 9k?


you might also want to warn your customers that the 'to-hit' and 'defense' values you're advertising have no effect on the actual clone... they, along with armor effectiveness, rewrite according to CL after taming.



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Kivrin
Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:40 am
#5

Yes. Pre-CU there were a lot of "Evolutionists". There were some incredible recipes devised by dedicated BE's that pushed pet crafting way beyond what was thought possible. Armor on a CL9. 100% Blast and Stun on a Non-CH. CL15 Bol with 60% Kinetic and Energy resists. CL10's with 12k health. CL35's with Armor, 60% Kinetic and Energy, and any two special attacks the customer could want. Arthur, Zaddock, Lloyd, Aleskander, Spazzers, Halthron, and Jekk for instance. We lived by our recipe books and excel spreadsheets. Unfortunately a lot of this camp left the profession due to the changes brought upon by the CU.

Post-CU things are a lot different. The system is new, sort've buggy, and still unfinished. Yet there are BE's who are figuring out new things daily and most likely making some well-thoughtout creatures on their respective servers. Dorelli, lamm, Braccus, and others here have shown a lot of insight to the new system.

The difference between the above people and your post however is their willingness to share the findings for the betterment of the profession. Sure, you don't have to post recipes, even though we did that back in the day, but sharing the knowledge you've gained about the system is more favorable than spouting stats and calling everyone else mashers.

I personally think 1 million is way too much for a creature (except maybe for that full RCSQ clone :/). In my ~9 months as a BE I have never charged more than 15% of that, even for specific special orders that took a lot of time and thought to make. For me it was always about the challenge and making the customers happy.



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goatt_13
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:22 pm
#6

as a member of the server in question, i can state that i've never seen this character.

he certainly has never surfaced as anyone of particular note.

i don't take personal offense to his claims, but kettemoor has cultivated more than a few reputable BEs who have done tireless research, reported on countless resource blooms, and done more to combat misinformation than this guy will ever care to realize.

as a good number of these players have left the scene, a species like this crawls out to fill the rift. if "draegon" chooses to disrespect those that came before him, he earns the right to be corrected, by way of his customers, from those of us that remain.



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Ankhesanamun
Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:46 pm
#7

ya im on Kettemor and stopped by his place the other day to have a lookie Truthfully, evolutionist... monster masher, whatever you call it. The prices are 'Ridiculously' overpriced.


As being a former Bio-Engineer myself, check my posts on the subject , there's very little difference between a monster masher and an Evolutionist. I've created and tested 'Many' creatures after the CU trying to find the magical formula that lead to pet level. I can go out throw 5 different monsters together and get the same result as doing 'Evolution' techniques on my creatures. It's about knowing which DNA is best for the job.


I stopped by the shop the other day to compare my creatures with yours, and there's little difference. And these are test creatures I just threw together and 'gave away' trying to figure out the level formula. Not trying to flame or anything, maybe its just your advertising that makes you so 'knowledgable' about Bio-engineering.


Level 70


Health 6990
Armor 4696 <- Max for level 70 = 40.629792 Resist
Def 170 <- Max for level 70
Regen 664
State 30.300001
To Hit 170 <- Max for level 70
Crit Save 4.528
Aggro 5.4
Crit Hit 3.4880002
Damage 101-401


How bout this one


Level 68


Health 7825
Armor 4522 <- Max for level 68 = 39.52 Resist
Def 165 <- Max for level 68
Regen 446
State 30.8
To Hit 165 <- Max for level 68
Crit Save 1.128
Aggro 3.5
Crit Hit 4.144
Damage 100-399


Louannarchy
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:09 am
#8

I like makin 70's and I have a few recipes for them that come out to these stats...


6-6.5k ham with 400-440dmg


7.3k ham with 400-410dmg


9.1k ham with 360dmg


4.5k ham with 490-499 dmg


The inbetween stats are pretty close to yours, but varies on which I'm making, and then an assortment of twin, triplets, and non-ch ones I'm workin to define. I have specific recipes for each and Its not a "mashing" technique. Sunrunners BE's are pretty much on their own, Ive had one person ask me for my recipes and my response was politely no. Glad to see your business is successful on your server.





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Aerontako_Shretalon
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:39 am
#9

When hunting creatures, do you go for those with as many high stats as you can, or is it better to look for specific stats when configuring the placement of DNA in a template? The best creature I've found is the Kliknik, but I haven't found a Bull Malkloc, which is said to have some of the highest statistics.
Cindal
Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:52 pm
#10

Are these merely pet deeds or did these stats carry forward to the pet when tamed and grown to maturity?



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PlainWhiteSocks
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:42 pm
#11


REALbp1 wrote:

CL 66
7350 Health
806 Regeneration (thats 1055 endurance, 55 points post the 1000 elite boss mob dna breach!)
183 accuracy
170 defenses
31% state resistances
5% crit
5% crit save
8% aggro taunt mod
98 - 380 dmg

I'm not at all impressed with this pet, neither as an MCH, or an MBE. Besides, I sell level 65 pets with 380 damage and 8500 health, for 85k.

To be honest, your post is sort of ridiculous. I will give you an ‘A’ for being overly imaginative though.






I give away pets like this



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Ex-Master Bio-Engineer
REALbp1
Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:48 am
#12

CL 66
7350 Health
806 Regeneration (thats 1055 endurance, 55 points post the 1000 elite boss mob dna breach!)
183 accuracy
170 defenses
31% state resistances
5% crit
5% crit save
8% aggro taunt mod
98 - 380 dmg


I'm not at all impressed with this pet, neither as an MCH, or an MBE. Besides, I sell level 65 pets with 380 damage and 8500 health, for 85k.


To be honest, your post is sort of ridiculous. I will give you an ‘A’ for being overly imaginative though.




Ijiamee - Lowca

MCH / MBE / Novice Rifleman
theorb22
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:50 am
#13






REALbp1 wrote:

CL 66
7350 Health
806 Regeneration (thats 1055 endurance, 55 points post the 1000 elite boss mob dna breach!)
183 accuracy
170 defenses
31% state resistances
5% crit
5% crit save
8% aggro taunt mod
98 - 380 dmg


I'm not at all impressed with this pet, neither as an MCH, or an MBE. Besides, I sell level 65 pets with 380 damage and 8500 health, for 85k.


To be honest, your post is sort of ridiculous. I will give you an ‘A’ for being overly imaginative though.





To be honest, as an MCH, I would probably be somewhat interested in this pet because of the agro bonus and how it's being shifted out with the courage nerf, I don't know if regen has diminishing returns or not but over 800 seems nice to me, health ain't that bad too. Now, I certainly wouldn't pay 5-10 million for this thing, especially since I just bought one with over 15 percent agro bonus which has comparable stats for only 600K, (Less regen I believe however) but that's just me :/.






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