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Thread: What are the best Cl-10 Pets?

NeLLoSawznarp
Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:16 pm
#1

So what stats to look for and what price to look for, i am kinda new to Bio-pets so any help would be good, i have seen a kwi with 5500 health, for like 55k, is that a good deal?

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NeLLoSawznarp
Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:18 pm
#2

anyone?






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Shenron
Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:33 pm
#3

well


well CL 10 pets can have health between 0 - 7000ish, with even som exceptions of 10000 health or so.


5000 health is quite good. Using voritor dasher/huurton pup combo you get 4000-5500 health.


But the word is that devs think that pets with those stats are still 'bugged'. CL 10 pets should have 1000 ham or so, from what i've read. So its possible that in one of the next publishes you won't be able to call a 5000 ham CL 10 pet


Haruspex77
Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:57 pm
#4








Shenron wrote:[snip]


But the word is that devs think that pets with those stats are still 'bugged'. CL 10 pets should have 1000 ham or so, from what i've read. So its possible that in one of the next publishes you won't be able to call a 5000 ham CL 10 pet




I believe that to be meer player speculation. The actual Pub.7nerf hit my pet with 1300 in the highest bar (and no resists or other high stats), but left 10,000 HAM pets callable. It isn't clear what the dev intention was, and there has been no response.


My speculation is that there is a dice roll for invalid, once each publish,intended to discourage people from buying pets. That is more consistant with the observed results.

Knocturnel68
Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:02 pm
#5

There is a guy on Eclipse who makes Clvl10 bio pets with between 4500 ham, and 9500, not to mention 11%-60% kinetic. Yes you can use them. Yes they cost an insane amount of credits. If I got his methods from him, I would drop swordsman/doctor and take up BE that day haha.
Tazz1
Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:38 pm
#6

Made a lvl 5 yesterday... 8k Health... 5-6k action and mind... 43% kinetic... and its still valid under the current system...

Dont ask how i Made it... it was like 10th gen... shoulda been lvl 20-23 with what i put in it... but POOF.. lvl 5
GotharMarath
Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:25 am
#7

I actually stumbled across a couple recipes thatare allowing me to make callable creatures with 9k/5k/3.5K HAM Strong Poison and Strong Disease or Strong Poison and Dizzy or KD/Dizzy and Kin between 40 and 60. I am selling these for 100K a pop WITH A BLATANT DISCLAMIER about SWG nerfing practices. They really seem out of whack, but they help A LOT with CH grinding and meat collecting. People are sucking them down, even with the disclaimer....



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Lyekka
Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:53 am
#8






GotharMarath wrote:
I actually stumbled across a couple recipes thatare allowing me to make callable creatures with 9k/5k/3.5K HAM Strong Poison and Strong Disease or Strong Poison and Dizzy or KD/Dizzy and Kin between 40 and 60. I am selling these for 100K a pop WITH A BLATANT DISCLAMIER about SWG nerfing practices. They really seem out of whack, but they help A LOT with CH grinding and meat collecting. People are sucking them down, even with the disclaimer....






OMG, Gothar! Any chance of you sharing that recipe with us! Even if it does get nerfed later, it could be very useful for now. Thanks in advance!




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Albion_DeCrappa
Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:36 am
#9


My speculation is that there is a dice roll for invalid, once each publish,intended to discourage people from buying pets. That is more consistant with the observed results.


And you also believe that JFK was captured by aliens shorly before his assassination, then recaptured by the government as a hybred alian/human and kept in Area 51 along with Elvis, and Jimmy Hoffa as some illuminati power triad gathered to run the world?


Invalidity has nothing to do with HAM alone. It has everything to do with a combination of HAM, Resists, Damage, ToHit, Speed, Special Attacks, and Ranged Attacks. Just because your pet's HAM fit into the requirements for a CL10 pet doesn't mean his Damage or ToHit did.And until you can show me proof (a screenshot before and after adjusted) ofa true CL<10 pet that went invalid you are full of crap.


The formula used to determin the CL is still messed up. The pets that are still invalid pets now are third and fourth generation pets that is why they did not go invalid after the last patch. I.E. those made using DNA samples from pets that were made with DNA samples from pets that were made with DNA samples...etc... If you purchase one of these you need to realize that it will most likely go invalid after the next patch. If you want to believe the guy I just quoted, that's your decision, but be aware that you may lose the pet and the money you paid for it.





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Haruspex77
Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:31 am
#10






Albion_DeCrappa wrote:


My speculation is that there is a dice roll for invalid, once each publish,intended to discourage people from buying pets. That is more consistant with the observed results.


And you also believe that JFK was captured by aliens shorly before his assassination, then recaptured by the government as a hybred alian/human and kept in Area 51 along with Elvis, and Jimmy Hoffa as some illuminati power triad gathered to run the world?


Invalidity has nothing to do with HAM alone. It has everything to do with a combination of HAM, Resists, Damage, ToHit, Speed, Special Attacks, and Ranged Attacks. Just because your pet's HAM fit into the requirements for a CL10 pet doesn't mean his Damage or ToHit did.And until you can show me proof (a screenshot before and after adjusted) ofa true CL<10 pet that went invalid you are full of crap.


The formula used to determin the CL is still messed up. The pets that are still invalid pets now are third and fourth generation pets that is why they did not go invalid after the last patch. I.E. those made using DNA samples from pets that were made with DNA samples from pets that were made with DNA samples...etc... If you purchase one of these you need to realize that it will most likely go invalid after the next patch. If you want to believe the guy I just quoted, that's your decision, but be aware that you may lose the pet and the money you paid for it.




No, largely because you mispelled hybrid, which is particularly bad for a BE as it is core to the profession:-) "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."


My poor little pet had been Lv9, and in hope of a 10I opted for the level change (which left it uncallable to me). So Jack's stats are unchanged, and I could email you a screenshot that shows the datapad display of them. But there is nothing there that has been mentioned as a problem: low damage and speed little resist. Jack, the jax,was actually a gift from an Novice BE/CH when that alt was starting, and I think was really grind product rather than something she was really proud of.


I finally paid to have it fully trained after some weeks of enjoyableuse, and BANG Pub 7 shot it dead.


Why do you think they will ever get it right after multiple failed tries? There is clearly some difficult coding issue that is causing the highly erratic results of the test. While I don't believe that the code looks like a dice roll, it is clearly the logical equivalent.


Moreover, the devs have largely gotten the result they needed. The game is not being flooded with overpowered Non-ch pets.


I think the folks buying >5k ham pets for high prices are making a good bet. They are very likely to get their full value out before the final fix comming for 2006, and then theyj ust might get grandfathered.

soldierdog
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:49 am
#11

Hi the best lvl 10 pet ihave over 10700 healt 9906 action 7200 mind 42%kinetic but only 130 dmg

droid327
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:35 am
#12

gah new members....please dont revive necro threads =D




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Zadokk
Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:45 pm
#13



i made about 15 58% kinetic / 8k health <cl10 pets and flogged em for 30k each (cos im nice)

Message Edited by Zadokk on 08-29-2004 05:47 PM

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