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Thread: Bugged Creature Special: Knockdown.

MaVTheLeeT
Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:31 am
#1

I posted this on the CH forums as well but here goes:


Through a couple hours of dueling and field testing with a couple different creatures I have come to the conclusion the "Knockdown" special attack NEVER works... We attempted to create macros even to try to get the pet to do a knockdown (Level 64 Bordock) and it just wouldn't happen...tried his other special attack (Dizzy) and it worked perfectly, almost 85% of the time...The move "Crippling attack" which changes posture DOES work...But Knockdown does not and that REALYL REALLY needs to be fixed in the next publish because that is a very key move.
Cthulhu1890
Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:42 am
#2

You know, I have a feeling it was intentional to make knockdown attack not work. Why would they want to give the profession they hate the most one of the most useful specials?
Rabbid_Toaster
Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:54 pm
#3

Did you try telling the pet to use the special BEFORE it attacks? That sometimes works.



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SDNewton
Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:11 pm
#4

KD dosent work...


So i still need to see my gnort make a Knockdown on a Rancor





Dies / Icaren ingame
Cthulhu1890
Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:08 pm
#5

Wow jerk, I never said it was a conspiracy. I thought it was intentional because they figured people would get all pissy if a CH had KD.

Even if they say it wasn't intentional, how can we believe them? They've lied to us in the past. And no I'm no being paranoid, remember the pet extinction? And how it just happened to be happening to our best pets?
SDNewton
Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:38 am
#6

Cthul is so right. Though the conspiracy is of a much larger scale!


ITS THE BRAWLERS ( and whatever elite profesions on that one ) !!! ( Ninjas )


Theyr developer went over to our 2 weak devs ( CH and BE devs) then told them to make the knockdown bugged, or he would kick theyr ass !


( The brawler guys fealt bad about the carbineersso they gave the carbineers something similair to Knockdown...)




But HI , why should we care? We dont use em , and customers pays big time for knockdown ( whyuuups did i say that out loud? )

And thats actualy not even a joke, alot of customers tells me to give em some sort of posture change, i tell them it very rarely works as intended but they ALWAYS tells me to make it anyway. One day this guy orders a high CL pet with high dmg and specials, i offer strong poison and cripling, he says he want kd , i tell him kd is bugged , he tells me to make it anyway ...




Dies / Icaren ingame
MaVTheLeeT
Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:34 am
#7

it SHOULD WORK...



Crippling attack works, and it changes posture but itsnot offered with some of the higher pets (or so a BE told me) im ch not be
SDNewton
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:47 am
#8


Cthul sorry, i found it a bid hard to take you serious! ( Jerk)



Why should they add a special and then call it off cause its overpowered?


You must enlighten me on this, when / where have the devs ever added a special, not ever made it work, and then removed it again cause it was overpowered?


MaVtheLeet have to admit i havent done any specific reseach in this matter, but i seen posture change made by a pet with cripling. And i talked to alot of people about knock down, and everybody says they never seen it work...

Message Edited by SDNewton on 02-29-2004 07:49 AM



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MaVTheLeeT
Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:38 am
#9

Yea SD,




A friend and I were determined to get to the truth: does KD work or not? we developed a 3 step macro process that in all the cases we tried for other specials - eventually produced the desired effect within 5-20 seconds of issueing the macro.



KD however failed to work EVER, even on a creature that had it by default in the nature (Gnarled rancor).


Cthulhu1890
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:18 pm
#10






SDNewton wrote:


Cthul sorry, i found it a bid hard to take you serious! ( Jerk)



Why should they add a special and then call it off cause its overpowered?


You must enlighten me on this, when / where have the devs ever added a special, not ever made it work, and then removed it again cause it was overpowered?


MaVtheLeet have to admit i havent done any specific reseach in this matter, but i seen posture change made by a pet with cripling. And i talked to alot of people about knock down, and everybody says they never seen it work...

Message Edited by SDNewton on 02-29-2004 07:49 AM



Excuse me, but you did ridicule me for saying something that I did not say, hence I refer to you as a jerk. And don't get all high and mighty, you try and put words in my mouth again by saying I claimthis to have happened before. My comment about us being the most hated profession was not a conspiracy comment, it was regarding the fact that our power has been immensely reduced due to the fact that the other players hated us. They nerf us for the money. They are now paranoid that doing anything good for a CH will cause the other players to start crying to nerf us again. Some players still think we are overpowered. Read and try to comprehend before acting like a total ass.


As for the OP, I have done testing and found that the only way you can get a target knocked down is if you use dizzy strike on a humanoid NPC then use a posture down attack (crippling strike) from which they try to stand.

Message Edited by Cthulhu1890 on 03-01-2004 09:21 PM

StarBase
Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:10 am
#11

My guess is that its supposed to work. They took the time to make sure other specials, like the AE and Bleed attacks, don't stick on the pets we make.They just need to make it work or not let it stick on our pets.
billy128
Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:56 am
#12

ive never had KD work with any of my pets . I was soo happy when i made my perfect pet with dizzy/KD . and then i found it was a waste of time .



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Wokka
Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:14 pm
#13






billy128 wrote:

ive never had KD work with any of my pets . I was soo happy when i made my perfect pet with dizzy/KD . and then i found it was a waste of time .







True, I've never seen an actual Knock-down work fro a pet, I finally saw the posture down work a few times, but will only have effect on those creatures that have a kneel posture. Supposedly, if thy're already on their knees, the posture down puts them prone. Wrong. they don't let pets put your enemy on their back or prone for some reason. Even if you had 10 sludge panthers on one human-like npc and saw the flurry of "posture down"s go by, they'll never get lower than their knees, if that.


Also, the 2H swordsman sweep moves don't work either. not as intended anyway. out of the hundreds of times I've performed the move, About half the time I got a message that said "you failed to change your targets posture" and onlyONE time out of hundreds, I saw my target go to his knees.


Of course they're bugs, intentional or not, they don't work now. Lets hope that eventually they either stop teasing us and take them away, or fix them and make them work.


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