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Thread: Herbivore Meat no longer necessary?

perfavorebasta
Thu May 26, 2005 2:51 am
#1

Very interested in this too. Can be helpful if BE's post a full list of organic resources with attention at the stats. Example: Hebivore meat with good OQ, PE, ... Large quantity or small quantity and so.


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ih8modem
Thu May 26, 2005 4:16 am
#2

As far as I know the requirements stayed the same for the doc components, and the required stats stayed the same too.



However the things they are used in (buff packs) are no longer desirable.



You should be able to find a list in here somewhere of all the new components and requirements.







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Ojes
Thu May 26, 2005 6:02 am
#3

Herbivore is still used in a subcomponent for stims (and one of the enhancers though I forget which one). Given the high volume of sales for the new stim Ds, I expect that herbivore will still be desired. The evaluation formula that I use for the various resources for meds and chef tissues are:


Herbivore: OQ + (PE/2)


Insect: OQ + (DR/3)


Any Meat (for chef tissues): (OQ/6) + (3PE/20) + (FL/10)






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Kivrin
Thu May 26, 2005 6:10 am
#4

It's also used in the UA/TN tissue IIRC, which also requires high OQ/PE/FL in that order.



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Greywulf0
Thu May 26, 2005 8:34 am
#5


I am desperately in need of herb meat. I've bought all of the quality meat that I can find on my server's vendor search.


Herb meat is used in Advanced Chemical Release Duration Mechanisms. The stats needed are OQ and PE.


Just a side note. Herb meat caps at a PE of 700. So if you see an OQ of 908 and a PE of 678. It is a very good spawn of meat.






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Jittaba
Thu May 26, 2005 9:19 am
#6

I'm just wondering, cuz I've got over 1 Million Units of Kamu and nobody seem to be interessted in it. And I don't think 60cpu are outrageous for the best Herb. Meat on gorath.

Jitt

Message Edited by Jittaba on 05-26-2005 09:22 AM

Greywulf0
Thu May 26, 2005 10:45 am
#7






Jittaba wrote:
I'm just wondering, cuz I've got over 1 Million Units of Kamu and nobody seem to be interessted in it. And I don't think 60cpu are outrageous for the best Herb. Meat on gorath.

Jitt

Message Edited by Jittaba on 05-26-2005 09:22 AM





How are you trying to sell it? I wouldn't have a problem buying some meat at 60 cpu (especially with the stats on that meat), but I couldn't afford to spend 6 million on a stack of 100k. I wouldeasily buy a stack of 17k units (enough for a full run of ACRDM).


Don't forget, not all crafters have 100 million to spend.





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Kivrin
Thu May 26, 2005 10:47 am
#8

IMHO you're asking much. Large quantities of meat is so much easier to come by now. The stats are great and it is still a neccessity, but since it goes into an advanced subcomponent which can't go into a non-advanced slot anymore its prominence has diminished. Regardless of what you may have paid for it pre-CU, the demand has gone down and the supply has gone up. Good luck.



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Jittaba
Thu May 26, 2005 10:55 am
#9


Greywulf0 wrote:


Jittaba wrote:
I'm just wondering, cuz I've got over 1 Million Units of Kamu and nobody seem to be interessted in it. And I don't think 60cpu are outrageous for the best Herb. Meat on gorath.

Jitt

Message Edited by Jittaba on 05-26-2005 09:22 AM



How are you trying to sell it? I wouldn't have a problem buying some meat at 60 cpu (especially with the stats on that meat), but I couldn't afford to spend 6 million on a stack of 100k. I would easily buy a stack of 17k units (enough for a full run of ACRDM).

Don't forget, not all crafters have 100 million to spend.




of course small stacks, like 10k not 100k...



Kivrin wrote:
IMHO you're asking much. Large quantities of meat is so much easier to come by now. The stats are great and it is still a neccessity, but since it goes into an advanced subcomponent which can't go into a non-advanced slot anymore its prominence has diminished. Regardless of what you may have paid for it pre-CU, the demand has gone down and the supply has gone up. Good luck.


You are right, but I doubt you'll see any good meat as this soon. If you compare gorath's history of herb. meat spawns, you'll see, it's pretty rare to get a good spawn. But hey, there's always hope for an uber shift lol.

Message Edited by Jittaba on 05-26-2005 10:59 AM

Greywulf0
Thu May 26, 2005 11:01 am
#10






Kivrin wrote:
IMHO you're asking much. Large quantities of meat is so much easier to come by now. The stats are great and it is still a neccessity, but since it goes into an advanced subcomponent which can't go into a non-advanced slot anymore its prominence has diminished. Regardless of what you may have paid for it pre-CU, the demand has gone down and the supply has gone up. Good luck.





Actually that depends somewhat.


Yes, the value of collecting current spawns are down. Currently on my server (at least before the publish) the best wooly spawn ever is harvestable. Prior to the CU, this spawn would have easily gone for 50 - 100 cpu. Now the top armorsmiths are only paying 5 cpu because a group of 8 people can collect 800k easily, and in a short time.


However, when a resource is no longer able to be collected, the value goes up. At that time, the value is based on several factors. Quality, type (herb meat as opposed to carn meat), and how much of a supply is in circulation.


I don't know if this spawn is a current spawn. If it is, then 60 cpu is way out of line. If it is an old spawn, as in Pre-CU, then 60 cpu might be a fair asking price. After all, it is a VERY nice spawn of herb meat. If it is an old spawn, but was collected Post-CU, then there might be a large supply of it; and therefore less of a demand.





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Jittaba
Thu May 26, 2005 11:05 am
#11

The Meat "Kamu", I'm offering, is 68 days old, and collected pre-cu. But I don't care if the pre/post-cu gives me any advantace. The fact remains, it's the best Herb. Meat ever on gorath. I might go down to 50cpu, but that's the minimum I'd go.
Jittaba
Thu May 26, 2005 12:00 pm
#12

Howdy,

Since BE's are now the pre-cu doc/cm-stuff crafter, i've got a question. Ain't Herbivore Meat necessary anymore for subcomponents? if yes, which stats are important?

Jitt
perfavorebasta
Thu May 26, 2005 11:10 pm
#13


60:1 was a fair price months ago. I remember a spot of tatooinian hervivore sold for 110:1 and I was able to harverst 102k of it.Then few patches changed the herbivore meat market. Basically the group hunting, the ranger bonus and lately with the CU the fact that a single Hunter (Scoutxx4x) can harverst 400 units from a single corpse. These facts changed the market drammatically. On my server I can say 20:1 are the best prices for it now. But yah I'm selling stock of 60k instead of 20k so the gain is more or less the same.


Usually my vendor is stocked with hide/bone/meat for 10:1 and I'm selling it quite fast. When the stats are really nice I mail to the costumers I know offering 20:1.


What is still selling better (up to 50:1) is milk (and eggs) but it's so slow to have large quantities of both.


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