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Thread: Freakishly good tissue

Gyopi
Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:03 am
#1

Over the weekend I was able to make some +19 enhanced myoflex using eggs with PE/FL/OQ all in the 700 range! It makes me wonder what would have happened if I had caught that nice spawn of Lokian eggs last month where all three were over 900!




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Kryxal
Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:17 am
#2

Very nice ... at least, if a person is only using one piece of BE clothing of that type. I just take +13 as minimum myself, and regard anything better as a bonus...



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Gyopi
Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:25 am
#3



Kryxal wrote:
Very nice ... at least, if a person is only using one piece of BE clothing of that type. I just take +13 as minimum myself, and regard anything better as a bonus...





For me +17 is the minimum because the extremely revealing skirt with entertainer mods is such a big seller right now. That skirt has one slot that takes several synthetic cloth and one slot that takes a single cloth. I can make +8 regular myoflex which doesn't take any eggs pretty easily, so if I put the +17 into the single cloth slot I can use the cheaper tissues for the other slot and still get the full +25 mod.




Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
Eimi -- Master Bioengineer - Master Image Designer on Lowca--
Eimiko--Master Image Designer on TestCenter--

ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:11 pm
#4

You know what I'd much rather see? I'd rather them making enhanced myoflex more useful. For example if they made the bonus applicable to buffing and/or battle fatigue healing rather than the mostly useless wound healing (honestly, a master dancer/musicial will heal even the most crippled mind in a matter of a minute or so, so what good does it do to increase that rate by 25% or whatever?)




Bendi_James wrote:

Would anyone be against asking the devs to changethe Enhanced Myoflex recipe from 15 eggs to say...5 eggs? Honestly, I don't think this is an unreasonable request. What do you guys think?

If you think about it, Dancers and Musicians are all clothes whores.....whoops did I say that? Hence, they are the ones that are always buying clothing...doubly so, if it is enhanced.

Please devs....throw us a bone.









ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Zadokk
Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:50 pm
#5






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
You know what I'd much rather see? I'd rather them making enhanced myoflex more useful. For example if they made the bonus applicable to buffing and/or battle fatigue healing rather than the mostly useless wound healing (honestly, a master dancer/musicial will heal even the most crippled mind in a matter of a minute or so, so what good does it do to increase that rate by 25% or whatever?)




Bendi_James wrote:

Would anyone be against asking the devs to changethe Enhanced Myoflex recipe from 15 eggs to say...5 eggs? Honestly, I don't think this is an unreasonable request. What do you guys think?

If you think about it, Dancers and Musicians are all clothes whores.....whoops did I say that? Hence, they are the ones that are always buying clothing...doubly so, if it is enhanced.

Please devs....throw us a bone.












meh it's generally for the entertainers, who are yet to get that state any high. when i was grinding dancer on an alt, it really does help out. besides it goes great when used in an exquisite dancer's leotard.
ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:06 pm
#6


Myoflex for entertainer grinders? nah, that's certainly not the customer profile I've observed. Mainly the people who I've made stuff like that for are the longtime entertainers who I believe look at it more as a novelty and are much more interested in the look than the bonus anyway. They throw the bonus in there because they have plenty of credits and "might as well" get something marginally benefitial to them in their profession.


One easy way to verify this: An entertainer will never ask:


"I need a max entertainer bonus outfit, what can you make?" or "what items can you make that are entertainer enhanceable?"


or any such thing. It's always:


"I would like this skirt, and that bustier, and those shoes, and oh by the way can you please put entertainer bonuses in that?"





Zadokk wrote:


meh it's generally for the entertainers, who are yet to get that state any high. when i was grinding dancer on an alt, it really does help out. besides it goes great when used in an exquisite dancer's leotard.





Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 11-29-2004 04:16 PM



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Gyopi
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:40 pm
#7

Well, the rumor is that it improves XP for people doing the FS dancing xp grind. I don't know whether it is true or not though.






Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
Eimi -- Master Bioengineer - Master Image Designer on Lowca--
Eimiko--Master Image Designer on TestCenter--

Zadokk
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:40 pm
#8






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:


Myoflex for entertainer grinders? nah, that's certainly not the customer profile I've observed. Mainly the people who I've made stuff like that for are the longtime entertainers who I believe look at it more as a novelty and are much more interested in the look than the bonus anyway. They throw the bonus in there because they have plenty of credits and "might as well" get something marginally benefitial to them in their profession.


One easy way to verify this: An entertainer will never ask:


"I need a max entertainer bonus outfit, what can you make?" or "what items can you make that are entertainer enhanceable?"


or any such thing. It's always:


"I would like this skirt, and that bustier, and those shoes, and oh by the way can you please put entertainer bonuses in that?"





Zadokk wrote:


meh it's generally for the entertainers, who are yet to get that state any high. when i was grinding dancer on an alt, it really does help out. besides it goes great when used in an exquisite dancer's leotard.






Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 11-29-2004 04:16 PM





well i can't really comment on my customers, i sell about 20 items of clothing (total) per night and i am yet to be asked to make bespoke entertainer clothing. i can see what you're saying with the "might as well" factor put in there, but it really does help with grinding novice entertainer
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:13 am
#9

I dunno, +17 would be very nice to have, but I guess being that picky is not really realistic or practical in my view. On the rare occasions when I'm able to buy a big enough stack of eggs that will make a couple of crates of myoflex, I've never stopped toconsider whether or not it would be sufficient to make +17's, I just buy it. And since swgcraft doesn't normally have eggs up-to-date on the servers I've played (since few people collect them) even if I was willing to devote many hours to travel to a particular planet to collect eggs where they were primo quality, I'd be unable to without travelling from planet to planet sampling them for quality myself. That's way too much work, particularly when getting +25 on a single skirt is of questionable usefulness anyway. Consider that anyof the bustiers of the metal bikini can be enhanced by using only 2 tissues, so we're talking only 3 enhanced myoflex tissues between the skirt and top to reach +25, and that can be done with any tissue over +12. Not that big a deal for those that are concerned about such things.





Gyopi wrote:


For me +17 is the minimum because the extremely revealing skirt with entertainer mods is such a big seller right now. That skirt has one slot that takes several synthetic cloth and one slot that takes a single cloth. I can make +8 regular myoflex which doesn't take any eggs pretty easily, so if I put the +17 into the single cloth slot I can use the cheaper tissues for the other slot and still get the full +25 mod.








ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Bendi_James
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:21 am
#10

Would anyone be against asking the devs to changethe Enhanced Myoflex recipe from 15 eggs to say...5 eggs? Honestly, I don't think this is an unreasonable request. What do you guys think?

If you think about it, Dancers and Musicians are all clothes whores.....whoops did I say that? Hence, they are the ones that are always buying clothing...doubly so, if it is enhanced.

Please devs....throw us a bone.
Gyopi
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:42 am
#11


ArthurDentOnBria wrote:

I dunno, +17 would be very nice to have, but I guess being that picky is not really realistic or practical in my view. On the rare occasions when I'm able to buy a big enough stack of eggs that will make a couple of crates of myoflex, I've never stopped to consider whether or not it would be sufficient to make +17's, I just buy it. And since swgcraft doesn't normally have eggs up-to-date on the servers I've played (since few people collect them) even if I was willing to devote many hours to travel to a particular planet to collect eggs where they were primo quality, I'd be unable to without travelling from planet to planet sampling them for quality myself. That's way too much work, particularly when getting +25 on a single skirt is of questionable usefulness anyway. Consider that any of the bustiers of the metal bikini can be enhanced by using only 2 tissues, so we're talking only 3 enhanced myoflex tissues between the skirt and top to reach +25, and that can be done with any tissue over +12. Not that big a deal for those that are concerned about such things.




I guess it is because I have never seen a big enough stack of eggs for sale to make a crate of enhanced myoflex. If I did I would buy it without really worrying about the stats on them! Since I always end up gathering my own I would much rather use 15 eggs in an outfit than 45. In general when I find some good eggs (I have people look for me when they are hunting) I spend several hours gathering them and then make a few crates of nice enhanced myoflex and lots of crates of +8 myoflex to tide me over.




Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
Eimi -- Master Bioengineer - Master Image Designer on Lowca--
Eimiko--Master Image Designer on TestCenter--

Frogmorton76
Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:55 pm
#12

>> Over the weekend I was able to make some +19 enhanced myoflex using eggs with PE/FL/OQ all in the 700 range! It makes

>> me wonder what would have happened if I had caught that nice spawn of Lokian eggs last month where all three were over 900!


I've had this happen several times now, three times with different egg spawns for Enhanced Myoflex, once with Adv. Biosensors, and couple times with BSN's. The only thing in common that I could tell is that they would normally of been +15 (+85 for the BSN's) but one time out of nowhere they shot all the way up to +19 on the tailor tissues (+88 for the BSN's though, although its happened now with three types of meat).


This has nothing at all to do with Amazing successes in experimentation or on assembly. I was able to reproduce the BSN's after about 50 or 100 tries with the same resources. It doesnt do it with all resources that would give +85 (I know, I went through 10K of this one Dath Carn meat trying to get that +88 again).


Someone theorized that its the opposite of a crit failure on assembly, a critical success if you will. Could be, but as far as I can tell it's a bug. A bug Im not complaining about really though.


Frogmorton D'Argent

Master Bio-Engineer
Bendi_James
Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:04 pm
#13






Frogmorton76 wrote:


This has nothing at all to do with Amazing successes in experimentation or on assembly. I was able to reproduce the BSN's after about 50 or 100 tries with the same resources. It doesnt do it with all resources that would give +85 (I know, I went through 10K of this one Dath Carn meat trying to get that +88 again).


Frogmorton D'Argent

Master Bio-Engineer






OMG Frog......10K dath carni by hand....you are a sadistic crafter aren't you? I like you already
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