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Thread: Resource %

JediSpam
Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:03 pm
#1

I've noticed something very disturbing.


I have more than enough static Mineral Harvesters placed all over Dantooine.


I did a harvester run yesterday, but found the resource concentrationsbelow my harvesters VERY LOW.


It was14-34% max for all minerals at9 separatelocations, and 55% Steel and 70% Gems on 2 others.


The harvester locations are all spread apart so numbers are normally random.


I would understand if this low % was for 2 or 3 locations, with the others having at least 50% of something, but 9 locations is very disturbing.


Since I only harvest on Dantooine, I don't know about the other planets, but are resource concentrations getting low throughout the galaxy? Or is it just me having SUPER bad luck? Anyone noticing something similar?




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saintchuck
Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:03 am
#2

Still finding Mineral 80%+ and Chemical 90%+, regularly.



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JediSpam
Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:20 am
#3

Yes,I can find80% and 90% too, but I'm talking about static harvesters, as in the ones that don't move...


On lucky days, I'd find 1 or 2 resource above 70% or 80% under a harvester.


I was just surprised to see that of the9 locations (orabout 80 harvesters spread out amongst 9 different locations about 500 - 1000m apart), the highest concentration I could find underall theseharvesters was 34%... I didfind resources with over 50% in 2 other locations though.


I was thinking to myself that perhaps the number of hotspots (the place with the highest %) per resource per planet was lowered or something. That would explain the low overall percentage, but perhaps I'm just paranoid.





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darthfodder
Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:37 am
#4

I have a few spots on tat that I put harvestors on all the time (they are not static) but have to trade off every now and then because some times none of the concentrations are higher than 50%. Its just luck I guess that you have consistantly found high %s with your static harvestors up until now.
JediSpam
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:31 pm
#5






darthfodder wrote:
I have a few spots on tat that I put harvestors on all the time (they are not static) but have to trade off every now and then because some times none of the concentrations are higher than 50%. Its just luck I guess that you have consistantly found high %s with your static harvestors up until now.





Yes, the trade off is there. Perhaps I've been too lucky so far.


The thing that threw me off was the 9 locations with pathetic %.


Yesterday, Bria had a new resource shift on Dantooine andthe percentages seem to bebetter overall.


Thanks for the replies.




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stryfex03
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:44 pm
#6

Carb ore is not much over 60%, ever.
DarthBukai
Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:30 pm
#7

It's a conspiracy! The Devs found out you had harvesters you never moved so they purposely and maliciously placed any good concentrations far from your harvesters.



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RobbPilot
Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:53 am
#8

Please, tell me more about these static harvestors. I've never heard of them before. Do they count against your lots too? Are they expensive? Do I buy them from architects?
RedOctoberuk
Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:54 am
#9

well carb ore was not much over 60% anywhere for past week anybody notice that ?


3 different types all around 60/65%


as it changed yet ? cause i not bothered to have a look




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Bad_Bad_Leroy
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:42 am
#10






RobbPilot wrote:
Please, tell me more about these static harvestors. I've never heard of them before. Do they count against your lots too? Are they expensive? Do I buy them from architects?





They're not actually static, he just doesn't choose to move them, because of the re-deeding costs.


If you get a lousy shift, it's almost always more profitable to re-deed and take a hourto find a good concentration than to leave your big harvesters sitting on junk spots. It just takes more effort than leaving them there until thenext shift.




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CheeseBurgerAnimal
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:50 am
#11

Can you, or do you know how to survey? Are these your harvestors using your lots? Or are you using the cross server bogus character lot swapping?



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PSKstang
Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:40 am
#12

Also some people will place static harvesters using another PCs account in a lot trade. I get your chars 10 lots on my server, and I'll give you my chars 10 lots on your server. I personally dont think its worth it since I tend to deal in bulk amounts of resources (300k+) and I really like to "chase down" the best of the best resources on the server. Nothing like the feeling of finding a 90%+ spot where you can drop down 5 harvesters.



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JediSpam
Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:29 am
#13

The reason for the originalpost was that I was getting a very small percentages in many "areas" for ALL RESOURCES and was under the impression that since there are many more miners now, maybe the Devs nerfed concentrations so they are LESS HOTSPOTS (places of high concentration) per planet...


From personal experience,a normal resource usually has about15hotspots per planet - give or take a few depending on resource. Meaning, there's about15 places with the highest area % per resource per planet. Some hotspots may be 50% max, others may be 98% max for the same resource. If you're a miner, I know you understand what I'm talking about.


I'm not talking about the actual max percentage per resource, I'm talking about the number of max percentage LOCATIONS per planet.


My concern was that on any random location, YES, the concentration CAN BE LOW for all resources. But low concentration for minerals in 9 separate locations is kinda strange, unless the number of hotspots have been lowered. Percentages I was getting were like 14%, 15%, 18%, 24%, 25%, 30%,34%, 34% and35% maxon the list of all available mineral resources in each location, with an average of 10 harvesters per location.



DarthBukai,


That was exactly how I felt. lol


Thanks for the humor, man!



CheeseBurger,


Hello there n00b


16 of my lots are from 2 charsI play with. These 16 lots are usuallyused for16 fusion gens. But I would sometimes go look for Water, Flora andChemicals as needed. So, yes, I do know how to surveyand yes, I do know how to mine. Thank you.


Lemme tell you about my business, since you seem to have limited knowledge.


I have about 130 harvesters, 40 of which are from cross server lot trades, but 90 of them from people who I have found in-game. Many are from close friends or guildies lending me 2-8 lots each for free and others are from people who I pay to rent their lots.


The majorityof thesepeople are those whom I have grown to trust (some of them since beta) that are willing to help me with my business. If they need a certain resource, they just tell me and I get it for themusually within 24 hours no matter how big the order is at a great discount, even if that means a loss for me. That's my way of showing appreciation to these people.


I don't want to bother theseplayers lending me their lots any more than I have already. They helped me place the harvesters and are willing to let me take all I mine. I think that's more than enough to ask one person to do for you.



I sell ore and only ore.


I mine ore and only ore.


Myharvesters remain STATIC, or permanent. I mine whatever ORE that has the highest concentration in any single area or whatever is newest if the previous one is about to shift out.I know I canbug my friends to come move the harvesters oncea week and waste their time, and mostWILL probably help me, but I choose not to.


I have on average about 10 harvesters per "area".All "areas" are at least500m apart from each other and are spread apartin a 3000m x 3000msquare areaon Dantooine. Which means I have a fairly large area to play with. Even if one location has 20%, another may have 60%, making my average 40%.


My normal average for ore concentration is about 30-35%.


When ore % is too low (like 15% or less) or none at all, I switch to other resources like steel or copper or whatever and simply sell to other resource sellers who,in return,sell me ore.


I could easily switch to other metals getting higher concentrations, but I choose not to.


I would usually take a 20% concentration of ore over 80% ofsteel if I had a choice, because I have orders to fill. Since you may have forgot, I sell ore.


This is because I'm constantly getting huge orders for ore and I'd rathermine it myself even if the % is low,than trying to find someone willing to trade me 1million units of ore for 2 million units of other resources every few days.


This is how I operate and and this is how I make a living.


Thank you.




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