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Thread: Focus Thread: Vehicle Bugs

Guruweaver
Thu May 20, 2004 7:54 am
#1

Hey all,

There are two main vehicle bugs that have been kicking around for some time. I'd like to turn the spotlight on them and see if we can get some resolution.

Bug 1:

Vehicle Warping: This was supposed to be fixed in the most recent patch, but in my experience it is still occuring. This is the bug where when you dismount, you and/or your vehicle 'warp' away.


Bug 2:

Vehicle Repairs: This is the bug where you repair your vehicle at a garage. Sometime later, when you call your vehicle, it has reverted to its previous, unrepaired state.


What I need from you:

Credible reports of these bugs. Include your character name, server, approximate location, and approximate time of the events. I'm trying to collect enough data to allow the devs to step on these bugs once and for all.

So, get out there and get us some data!



Take care,



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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 20, 2004 8:28 am
#2

I'll have a go, keeping in mind this happened 20 or so times before I put my sync macro back in place.


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Hope that helps. I'm trying to encourage my guildies to post here too, seeing they complain about it so often.




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Kevie
Thu May 20, 2004 8:32 am
#3









Bug 1:

Vehicle Warping: This was supposed to be fixed in the most recent patch, but in my experience it is still occuring. This is the bug where when you dismount, you and/or your vehicle 'warp' away.
the day this went live i still warped while dismounting several times.
before the patch, whenever i looked in a vendor, my vehicle would auto-store, i noticed this has been fixed so far (i went to the vendor i normally do and bought several things and it was still there when i was done)
this was also on naboo, just 1km from theed


Bug 2:

Vehicle Repairs: This is the bug where you repair your vehicle at a garage. Sometime later, when you call your vehicle, it has reverted to its previous, unrepaired state.

wow i didn't know this was a known bug.... this happened to me several days ago
i repaired in theed, went to my house (2km away) dismounted and then wandered around killing some bugs, came back and had to regenerate my vehicle, it was at half condition


What I need from you:

Credible reports of these bugs. Include your character name, server, approximate location, and approximate time of the events. I'm trying to collect enough data to allow the devs to step on these bugs once and for all.

So, get out there and get us some data!



Take care,








my in-game name is oaceen and i'm on the kettemoor server, sorry i can't give you waypoints or anything, i don't have access to swg right now lol
hope this helps though




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Warryyr
Thu May 20, 2004 9:02 am
#4

Just to let you know - there is a known workaround for the vehicle fix bug (vehiclesgoing back tobefore-repair state).


When you get to a vehicle garage, dismount and store your vehicle before repairing. Then generate your vehicle, repair it, and store/generate it again. I've done this with every repair and have yet to have a vehicle revert back to it's before-repair state.


The reason that your vehicle reverts back to it's unrepaired state is because, when you ride around, you cross various servers' boundaries. Essentially, you're riding a "copy" of your bike until the current server catches up. If your vehicle goes *poof* while you're still using this "copy" then you lose your repairs. A store/generate at a garage fixes you using a "copy." Also, vehicle stats are saved at the time you last stored your vehicle (it seems). If you repair your "bike" and then ride around (not storing it after your repair)and your bike goes *poof* - when you generate it, it uses the stats on your vehicle the last time you stored it. In other words, you lose your repair.


Bottom line, always store/generate your vehicle when you're going to repair it, then store/generate it again. I'd rather have the 25 points tick off my Swoop's health from generating it than losing a 4000 credit, 2000HP repair.



Guruweaver
Thu May 20, 2004 11:16 am
#5

Thanks, I was aware of the workaround. What I'm trying to do is to get it to work the "Normal" way, so that folks not clued into the subtlties of server boundaries and 'instances of stored data' can get the experience from vehicle repairs that they are expecting.



Thank you, though. It's an excellent write up of the workaround.

Be good!



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MMRadiation
Thu May 20, 2004 1:05 pm
#6

I warp almost 100m90% of the time i get off my speeder on the bria server. it seems to be the worst on dantooine, but it happens everywhere too. i have only had problems with repair when i repair in a player city.
Sinist
Thu May 20, 2004 1:12 pm
#7

I can confirm that the only time that I had run into the repair bug was in a player city. Not saying that means jack but that is the only times I have seen it.


THe warping thing happens constantly. It happened to me last night on Eclipse server in Anchorhead and it also happened to me last night at my player city Mandalore on Lok. Either my screen totally refreshes and the terrain changes for a second and I appear to bo somewhere different but im not then i appear back where i exited vehicle, or I am warped away from my bike to a totally different spot then I had dismounted. Or my bike does and I dont. It all happens fairly consistently.


Also might not be a bug but when selling vehicles I dont think the other person knows how good of a vehicle your selling them. Like stats on the deed? Not sure if other buildings have it but if they do, then it should be looked at as possible being added for vehicles. Or maybe I overlooked that but I had noticed it I thought a few days ago.





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PhoenixOrion
Thu May 20, 2004 1:51 pm
#8

I have a bug where I still get the not being able to STORE my Vehicle.


I notice this either happens on borders of Zones (like near my house for my alt, b/c i can't move stuff in my house sometimes too)...or when I hit the red barrier for building entrances...





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owako
Thu May 20, 2004 4:16 pm
#9

I use a /wave, /pause 1, /dismount macro so i don't see the warping anymore, but I still get the non repair issue. Last time I had it was a thursday last week, I was in the player city of twilights End on naboo. Fixed my bike then later poof, back to broken. Very annoying.



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Guruweaver
Thu May 20, 2004 7:46 pm
#10

Here's one for me:

Character Atren, Server Chilastra, Location: Outside city hall of Mistmore (Player City on Dantooine). Got off my bike (speeder) after I stopped, warped backwards about 80 meters.

Take care,



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Gavvot
Sat May 22, 2004 12:07 am
#11

New bug, don't have all the infos, but still:

Server : Farstar.
Character : Givvot.
Location : Usually in front of the Theed Spaceport. Also Happened in a camp.
Time : from time to time.
Bug : Often, when I go with my swoop in front of theed spaceport, I'm unable to store it.
I'm on the bike, I select store, it doesn't store.
So I select exist the vehicle, and then store, it doesn't store.
Then I go in my datapad, select my swoop, and try to store it.
But instead of the store option, I have the generate vehicle option.
If I hit the generate vehicle button, a new swoop is created. So I have 2 swoops out at the same time (I only have 1 in my datapad).
I can store the new swoop but not the old one.
Even after having stored the new swoop, I still can get on the old swoop.

I'm a DE and a Merchant.
I usually have a barker droid in front of the spaceport, so maybe it is related.

I can also say that each time the dev try to fix the vehicle, they usually break something with the droid (since I sometimes cannot store my swoop, I also have droids that auto-store for no reason).
When they fixed the 'the droid is in my head' bug, vehcile warping get worst, when they reduce the warping, the droids are back in your head.

Hope that help.

Message Edited by Gavvot on 05-21-2004 09:08 PM



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SkratchDJ
Sun May 23, 2004 11:38 am
#12

This is mainly in reply to the previous post....


I too have this problem in Theed, not being able to store my bike when I am in front of the starport. I am on the Lowca server and have this problem 90% of the time I ride into theed.


Also in the last "fix" it stated that they fixed the problem where bikes teleported away. Well that was the never the problem(atleast from what everyone I know on Lowca experienced), the problem was YOU, yourself warping from the location of your bike. Then there was a seperate problem where the bike would just store itself on its own and you would have to regenerate it. Two seperate problems, both very annoying to say the least and neither one fixed in the last patch. I am aware of the /wave dismount workaround but I dont feel it should be necasarry to have to create a macro like this just to get off your bike and not teleport.
Stargzrrag
Sun May 23, 2004 3:53 pm
#13

I had this problem in a player city on naboo (tempest server). But when I called the second version and stored it both vehicles disappeared. Also has happened to me at the shuttleport near the cantina in Moenia.


Not sure if it's a bug, but not being able to store your bike in combat is getting kind of frustrating. If there were a way to repair a disable bike, it wouldn't be an issue, but having to make a nother one, just cause the huurtons(or whatever decided my swoop looked tasty. I've also had a few NPC's on tatooine think my bike is more of a threat than me and disable it relatively fast.




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