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Thread: If you are human, and an Artisan, you dont need to macro!

LadyGrey
Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:34 pm
#1

However, even though you don't need to rest, the macro is still an important part of sampling, if you are going to be away from your computer. It is the only way of continuing to sample when those little pop-up windows appear, telling you things and asking for input.



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LadyGrey

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Buugli
Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:38 pm
#2

Well, since you brought it up...


I am a mon cal, and I don't have to macro either! All I have to do is sit after each sample for the 30 seconds until I can sample again. Then stand, sample, sit - repeat. Since all of that is a pain in the nether regions, I wrote a macro to do it for me, using ingame mechanics and to save repetitve button pushings. Not an afk macro mind you, but one that handles the timing for me so I can chat with guildmates, craft, whatever.


Now, all that aside - I had no problem maxing survey skills several times over. Shuttle waits, crafting marathons (OK, grinding a bit), anything that leaves you with idle time on your hands is a surveying opportunity. All too often there is a high concentration of a good resource near a shuttleport. Even a crappy 30% (I've gone as low as 24%) is a learning opportunity.


So, non-humans, don't despair. Stat migration helps, and it's nice that even we aliens can change things over time, but even without surveying was the FIRST artisan skill I maxed.


NestoCrafter
Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:39 pm
#3






LadyGrey wrote:
However, even though you don't need to rest, the macro is still an important part of sampling, if you are going to be away from your computer. It is the only way of continuing to sample when those little pop-up windows appear, telling you things and asking for input.





Oh.


I didn't know that LadyGrey. You just saved me the greif of going to sleep happily thinking my toon was sampling away.


I will find some way to repay you for saving me the anger and frustration. I mean, its not like I have anything against macros, but why did they have to make Surveying and Sampling so boring? Necesarry evil I suppose.


Thanks again.

BobbyJack
Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:24 pm
#4

How do you macro around the pop ups when surveying? I'm a master artisan already so it does me little good now, but I tried to figure it out when I was going through survey. What was I missing?
NomAnor1987
Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:47 pm
#5

a sit command...


like:
/kneel;
/pause 1;
/sample;
/pause 3;
/sit;
/pause 50;
/ui action toolbar00;


Then they won't come....




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NestoCrafter
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:14 am
#6

I found something out last night.


I play a human, and I don't like to macro. I am all about done with Artisan skills, except that last box of Surveying.


So, I tried something. I migrated my stats. Health? 500, and 400 on the subs. Action? Well, I made it 900, with a Stamina of 600, and a Quickness of 500.


I no longer have to rest to Survey. I seriously timed it, and after 6 minutes, I just walked away.


I thought I would migrate, then maybe macro taking Tatooine Sunburn every 8 minutes or so, but who needs to now?


So, if this is a known thing, then slap my bottom and call me a noob, but I think it's great, and it certainly is a great time saver.


If you have other skills in Combat, obviously this is not an option.


NestoCrafter
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:15 am
#7

Sorry. I meant I no longer have to rest to Sample. My kingdom for an edit button!
ToppDog
Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:45 am
#8

My macro is very easy & bypasses all those stupid popup windows. The trick was to make it loop for only aSINGLE sampling instead of a whole session. it is very easy to time because all you have to do is time how long it takes to sample one time only, stand up, & regen to full health again. When you stand up right away you cancel out any options given to you by the popup windows rendering them impotent, as they should be, hehe. Here goes:



/sample;
/pause 10;
/stand;
/pause 25;
/stand;
/pause 25;
/ui action toolbarSlot02



The stand command is in there in case lag stops it from registering, which it often does in this game. Just edit the numbers based on how long it takes your char to regen etc.

NestoCrafter
Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:20 pm
#9

I just wanted to clarify something, when I thought I was onto something cool.


I don't need to rest anymore to sample, after the migration. My noobiness prevented me from realizing how the popups would cause problems.


I initially thought this was great, seeing as how my toon doesn't have any combat skills and all, I really thought I was onto something cool. Migrate up your subs, and your Action regens faster than you can imagine!


However, seeing as how the popups that can sometimes be helpful in the earlier stages of Surveying, now are nothing more than a distraction in the higher areas of Surveying.


The fact that the macro bypasses the screens is very helpful. I realized last night as I spent hours on Dantooine searching for a good steel spot, and the fact that I could not find one that didn't require me to beg for zoning rights, I realized this could suck.


Meaning, if we are forced to macro sample due toa rare resource showing up in some player city, where getting zoning rights is as likely as becoming Jedi, what are we supposed to do?


Has anyone else found this to be a potential issue? Should I just shut up and keep looking for a good spot to place harvesters that aren't in the borders of a player city?

ToppDog
Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:15 pm
#10

Well, I don't see them allowing you to put harvesters in a city if the city doesn't want them there. But the good thing about macro sampling in a city is that you don't need rights to do so & there usually aren't npc mobs in the cities to kill you if you go afk for a bit.


This issue would be better solved by the devs putting resources outside of cities or unharvestable areas in the first place.

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