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Thread: Tips for Noob on Surveying Techniques

Okkam
Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:48 am
#1
Hi all,


I have just started up an Artisan char. I got myself to surveying 4 so I can see the big readout. I was wondering if there are any tips on the best strategies for finding the high concentrations of resources (75%+). Is there any real trick to it or do you just drive around and hope to get lucky? Do most people shoot for the really high concentrations or do you focus in mining the good stuff even in low (like less than 40%) concentrations? Are certain planets known for being better mining planets than others?


Cheers,


Okkam



PS: Is there a safe way to sample radioactives for fusion placement or am I going to be irradiated regardless?
gilpax
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:05 pm
#2

There's no tricks in finding high level concentration of ressources. When they spawn, their distribution is random. For water and ore, a concentration of 50% is already acceptable, even if you can find higher concentrations. The SW ressources can have higher concentration but their stats might not be to your liking.


And radio will give you some kind of damage everytimes but not always will wound you.



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ikotchoo
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:10 pm
#3
on the radio part, most of thetime there isn't alot of options per shift on what kinda radio you can get. but eitherway you must have it to run your harv's and factories. if there are some to pick from, i just use whatever harvester is closest to me and pull some up and decide which is the best to go w/ on that shift.matter of fact, thats how i do all mysampling to see what's the good stuff.since the 4th or 5th pub, there is no safe way to hand harvest radiation.


another thing, some matrials are just harder to find in higher concentrations,prime exampleore. you have to work your butt off to find ore over 60% yield, but most other stuff comes in over 80%. at least thats been my experience. most of the time, your profession will dictate what comes first, quantity or quality. if you can't experiement on it, quantity is king. right now, i have 3 19ber fusions on the worst radio i've ever seen of 2 years of game play, but i need it for shipwright so i have to have it anyway.


shipwright here so, i'm mainly speaking for metals, chems, and ores, so the same may not apply to some of the other crafting profs.
Okkam
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:14 pm
#4

Thanks for the replies. It is kinda sad that survey droids can't do some of this legwork for us. I am looking at shipwright as well, so I have started my first personals on some decent steel on a 60% deposit. It is just depressing when I see thatI need something like40 hojillion to make it to master. I guess I need to go get somemore cash to upgrade my harvestors.



Cheers,


Okkam
ikotchoo
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:23 pm
#5
starting shipwright??? all you need to worry about is finding a high % yeild on steel, aluminum, poly, and ore.steel is whatyou will use most, i normally do 4 harvs on steel and 2 on each of the others.shipwright is easy if you have alot of material or money, really both. w/ this harving setup, i check my harvs 2 times a week and grind a week's material in less than 30mins. that is the best part of shipwright, you don't need elaborate macro's or hours of manually clicking to get your xp. bottomline, don't even worry about the quality while you are grinding, but if theres a good and better, always go w/ the better. initially, about the only thing you'll be able to sell is paint/texture kits, non experiementable parts, and low lvl ships. and being new to shipwright, you won't have enough experiementation points to sink into it anyway, so quantity, quantity, quantity.
ikotchoo
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:27 pm
#6
oh, and i agree.., survey droids are disappointing
Dimear
Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:50 pm
#7
On the original question, there aren't any easy ways. But there are some things you can do to speed it up - you may already do this. I just hop in my fastest vehicle and go. You can now survey while sitting in the vehicle, but I don't think you can survey over water any more.

So just hit the numlock key to get moving, open your survey tool, and keep surveying. Then just steer towards the highest waypoints. Make an extra waypoint when you hit a high concentration, then keep going. After you survey most of the flat spots on the planet, go back to the highest concentration you found and plant your harvesters. Don't even go to mountainous areas or wet areas - just stick with the open, relatively flat spots.

If you need ore, then find which planet has the JTL ore and survey only for that. All other ores are limited to max 67% spawn - the JTL resources can go to 100% like all the others. Spawn densities are not higher on particular planets.





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Indene
Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:48 pm
#8

On radioactives. If you are using it for power then the name tells you all you need to know. Class 1 has the lowest PE, Class 7 the highest. The higher the PE the more units of power per unit of radioactive. (range is 1.1-1.9 IE 1 unit radioactive class 1 is ~ 1.3 units of power. Class 7 1 unit= ~ 1.9 units of power.


For shipwright you need the special radioactive so whenever it spawns harvest some.


Go to swgcraft.com and see if someone else has already found it and added to the database.


If you absolutly need to get a sample, drop a cheap personal harvester and get some then destroy the harvester.


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Okkam
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:00 am
#9

What is the JTL ore? Is it a new named type that was introduced with that or is it something specific that shipwrights need?




Cheers,



Okkam


Dimear
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:06 am
#10
Okkam wrote:

What is the JTL ore? Is it a new named type that was introduced with that or is it something specific that shipwrights need?

Cheers,

Okkam




Yes and yes. I think it's called Fermionic Siliclastic Ore. Look on swgcraft.com to see what planet it's on. It was introduced with JTL, and it can spawn at full density. And it's used in some shipwright parts (and anything that just required general ore). So if you need general ore, it can be a good idea to mine this stuff, since you can find it at a high concentration. And its spawn usually lasts for about 3 weeks instead of the normal 2ish. But it only spawns on one planet at a time.

Message Edited by Dimear on 11-01-2005 01:09 PM





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