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Thread: Bazaar Improvements (based on much use)

Artuk
Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:25 pm
#1

Hi,

Here is my short list of bazaar improvements I would like to see. This is based on my having made many many sales through the bazaar, not one of which was a cdef or power up. My product line generally sells for 200+ cr. I typically sell 5-10 items per day.

1) The amount of slots you are allowed to use increased with Business Skill

I recommend 15 + 5/level of business. This would reduce low end garbage sales somewhat while at Business IV we would have 10 more slots then we do now. Perhaps also for Master Artisan. It would provide a purpose to the business discipline apart from owning your own store.

2) Allow remote deletion of incomplete sales

Right now if I pull an item of the market on another planet, it takes up a slot until I travel to that planet to pick it up. Often the value of the item is far less then the cost to travel there. I would like the option to remove the item remotely.

3) Add the location purchased to the notification email

Right now I may be in the field and get three or four emails saying items have been bought. I wont know WHICH bazaar that needs to be restocked until I get to a bazaar terminal. If I see four items bought and they are all from the same terminal, I may travel there to fill it. If it is from four different terminals, I probably let it ride. I would like to know this BEFORE I return to town.

4) Display base item.

This is critical. We need to know what the item was prior to it being renamed. There are many folks get defrauded this way. I always leave the base item name as the front of a name.. but I know others are not so honest. This will also make filtering easier.

5) Description on Hover

Lets have the seller's description come up when the users mouse hovers on the item. This is where I am going to list properties that I didnt know until the product was made. For instance.. the number of sockets, if any. If I have a 4 socket backpack on the market, I want to be able to charge more and have people be able to find out why very easily.

6) More categories

We need categories for each ranged weapon and melee weapon type. We need a seperate category for CDEF entirely. CDEF weapons are stifling arms sales.

7) Base type filtering

A user should be able to include or exclude certain base types from their listing. If they are looking for a scout pistol, they should be able to filter to just scout pistols. If they are NOT looking for a CDEF weapon, they should be able to filter that.

8) Premium auctions need highlight and need to maintain position on resort.

RIght now a premium auction does sort itself at the top, but that only lasts until the first resort. Premium auctions should be grouped and sorted at the top ALWAYS. Thats what I payed for. They should also have a different color.

9) Socketed items should have a yellow name in the bazaar too.


So why didnt I list the "relist item at different price" request that folks have? My fear is that it will create an even more unstable "undercutting" bazaar then we have now. I am not sure I would support that change. It is sufficient to me to delete the item remotely.

Regards,

Artuk




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Artuk
Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:32 pm
#2

Forgot one:

10) Make Instant Sale the Default Sale.

10.5) NEVER default to premium sale even if last sale was premium.

Regards,

Artuk




Take up your china doll, it's only fractured - and just a little nervous from the fall..
NoProfit_Stan
Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:59 pm
#3

Artuk,


Excellent post. I also am selling 15-20 items per day on the Bazaar. TI only haveminor additions to your list:


- For auction, make the default time much less. 3 days?
- For all sales under 250 credits, make the sale only last 3 days.
- Allow for deletion of items in the retrieve window. Remotely.
- Allow for a default msg to be placed on multiple items. I want to put the same description on every like item I sell, which is often 5-10 identical items. I guess this is possible today with copy/paste, but I have not made it work.



NPStan

Artuk
Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:47 pm
#4

Agreed.. especially the last bit.

Even if cut and paste worked in that window it would be sufficient. Part of the reason I dont put more description in is that I have to type it for each item.

Regards,

Artuk




Take up your china doll, it's only fractured - and just a little nervous from the fall..
SpeerRedow
Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:10 pm
#5

I don't know if anyone else is getting this, but I sometimes still don't get the money from the bazaar. I lost out on 3k credits today, never appearing in my inventory, but the item got sold
dvisti
Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:18 pm
#6

Let me add one more. I'd like to be able to filter the list so I only see instant sales. Unless I am looking for something really rare, I have no interest in seeing auctions ending in 6 days. I need something now!<heh>



mld0806
Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:32 pm
#7

dvisi,


Click they "Sale Type" category...this will sort the list out by auctions and immediates. Click it again to bring the immediates to the front...


Mike


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Oka Higre
President, HigreCorp




Mike

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Rthr-X
Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:01 pm
#8

You -can- copy and paste; I do it regularly. You have to go into the options and create a key-mapping for it, though. I use Ctrl-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V... you just highlight the text with the mouse and copy from there.


And does the permium sale 'highlighting' actually work? I can't say I've ever seen anything stand out on the list, including the stuff I've put on premium...

krank13
Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:24 am
#9

I would like a search field, that you can type into. I would also like a mouse over, on the list of filters, to show the products you can find in them. (most of them are self explanitory, a couple are not).


I like the idea of merchant giving you more slots, but I would also like more slots, anyway. 25 is not enough. I make a lot of small goods, and I can't post them on the terminal, and that is frustrating. I agree with being able to remotely remove goods. It would also be nice to remotely change the price of goods, so, just before a sale ends, you can try to dump the goods, before you loose your 20 listing fee.




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SirLagger
Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:11 pm
#10

These are all good ideas. The bazaar needs lots of work IMHO...



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gatekeep
Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:31 pm
#11

I'd also like to see some level of merchant skill allow short text ads to be placed for a fee. These could show up google-style in a section of the screen near the search results. Ideally, they'd allow you to attach a waypoint to a shop as well and be displayed according to what types of items the user is currently viewing.
Rthr-X
Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:39 pm
#12

I kind of like the idea of giving architect's the ability to build / post billboards. You know, perhaps choose from a little clip-art collection and a fifty-character text message... "Eat at Joe's, fifty kilometers north of Coronet!"


... well, it ~could~ work.


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NoProfit_Stan
Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:37 am
#13

Artuk,


I got copy/paste working last night. Huge, huge difference. I could paste both names of crafted items atthen end ofprototype creationand the description for the item in Bazaar.


The copy, cut and paste functions live in the Chat tab of the remapping section of the options window. I've tried many times to rebind them without luck before. Last night I used CTRL-NUMPAD combinations and it seemed to work fine.


Now I do tend to try and hit CTRL-V to paste and bring up the planetary map, but I can at least remember to try CTRL-NUMPAD2 to paste a block of text.


NPStan

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