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i payed 150k for my first composit armour ....we all know how much resources it takes, 50k to 80k for a medium havster ex9 or ex10 takes just over 3k of resources to make, a top weapon like a t21 or flame thrower ect again about 2k to 3k resources to make u pay 18k to 45k, mounts this was a joke but i c them go for 200k the first few days

so why do i keep reading that alot of other professions are moaning aboutmaster artisanare going to be asking 100k or more for a speeder today ........i say to the other professions its got to work both ways so like it or lump it.......also im not saying im going to be charging 100k for a speeder but when i c a creature handler wanting one he will pay top money...

/amen

All you people that are complaining about paying for vehicles need to step back a month in time and look at the ch ass-raping everyone took (aka mounts). Then think about what goes into a mount (not BE)..hmm taming, wait a few days, train mount, sell for 200k. Seems rather rediculous eh? Now, take into account that vehicles will be using resources (no taming vehicles hah) and as of TH's last posting on vehicles, the resources stats now affect the vehicles quality. So assuming you are using a good quality resource, ur talkin around 4-5cpu + labor costs. Yeah i agree 100k is a bit much, but everyone looking to pay 8-10k for a vehicle needs to understand that artisans will be making vehicles for a loss at that price. Im a firm believer infair pricing, but these prices have to be fair to the person spending their time making the things too. (oh and a chance to get the money back from those pesky CHs, no not all of you!)

I'm sorry, Iknow it's off topic, but it just kills me that you can say ass-raping but cannot say p-o-k-e-m-o-n <BFG>

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Hoko wrote:
that is because the ch class is Pokemon. devs get tired of seeing people say this so it got banned.

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First point - Supply and demand is the rule of sales. Day 1 equals high demand and low supply. I will sell my vehicles for what I can, no price fixing just to make people happy.

Second point - CH and BE did just that. The rules of supply and demand were very much in effect. There was no ready supply of creatures, so it took a week to balance out.

Third point -We will face a different circumstance with factories cranking out hundreds of vehicles a day. The supply will flood the market and the prices will be bulk resource rates within three days. Mark my words, the prediction is in, come Saturday landspeeders will be under 20k, probably 15k.

The only resonse to this could be is that armour smiths and weapon smiths do have to take more time to make the item with multiple parts.

to make vehicals it is 2 clicks and it is done.

Ch's on the other hand ... made a basicly one time deal pay off for them..

woovie

Let me explain something about CH... First, i'm a master artisan now, and do not intend to sell vehicule over-priced even if it's first day. I'll sell to my guild mates..

As for CH. I personnally didnt sell any mounts the first few days to the people i didn't know... Why?

Imagine this when you login:

Do you have a mount!?

Hey buddy you have a mount for sale ?

Avitam eternam if you don't remove your title.

You have a maximum of 16 spots. Most Ch have them loaded, had a couple of mounts ready for themselves and some friends.

When you tame a pet, it take 1 spot of your 16, including your PVE pets, you must wait like 4 days before you can train it as a mount and people that day wanted READY TO MOUNT ... Dam i even had to delete my 3 grand wrix to make room for orders of my guild mates. add to this that you don't need any money. Why then would you sale a Kaadu 15k to a stranger the first day mounts are live, when you know many friends and guild mates that are waiting for them?

Vehicule? Harvesters. Me and my friend justfocused all of our xtr-10 harvesters on ferrous and non-ferrous ratio of vehicules.

There are elements that lot of people forget to put on the table when they are bashing MCH.

I forgot to add that the price went down pretty fast for mounts also...

After the rush, i myself always kept about 2 or 3 mounts ready and sold them to random people for about 15k. Offer and demand...

No need to bash Artisans nor MCH for this.

OK every one is wondering weather to set a price ore go case per case.

on release day go case per case. but the day after set a price. notice i did not put a price out there but the above post is right the artisan has had nothing worth selling until now. and not only that it will be a steady demand becuase they have decay. the archs don't have decay so they sell high becuase eventually they will not be needed. weapons do not decay very fast and armor is the same. aror takes trmendous amounts of resources to make an entire set, (ok weaponS could charge a little less but thats ok master crafted weapons are good to buy 10 to 13k in my opinion.)

neway vehicles we could affor to sell at about 60 to 100k (that is just a proposed price a ball park but i was on earlier and there were only three master artisans in Coronet they only had three or four apiece (i got one yippe) and i paid 70k for it and thought that was great. my little brother got a speeder bike for 30k and that was nice i've seen three servers and the priced varyed to widely i think. the low was 30k the high was 250k

on day one (today) sell for the outragous prices at the 250k it WILL NOT STAY THERE enjoy it while it lasts

but once every one gets their vehicle(s) ( i want one of each) then solidify a price. do not think of the cost profit by cpu becuase that is not the point i harvest resources for approxamately .25 credits per unit it only costs 1200 credits to make one sell for 30k and you do well. BUT just to make artisan a profession like arch and weapon smith and armorsmith i'm gonna sell after the rush for 18 to 70k. do you see new 2004 corvettes selling for 1800. NO (if you do buy me one, i'll pay you back in three weeks) they sell for 20 - 30k (and i think even that is low, i'm not uptodate on the cars)

repair service as well if people want to repair the speeder instead of buy new, i'd say 1/3 cost of new (8 to 10k) unless you damage it worse then give them a new.

final word is up to you, but i say all us artisans, holocron artisans or "true" artisans lets agree on a price range it could be a wide one liek 10 to 300k i won't mind just lets get into a mindset of longterm pricing.

(and yes i do and will remeber the person i bought the speeder from. and if i find that he is still selling the speeders to everyone the price he sold to me for than i will buy from him again.) in naritus galaxy i buy exclusively from one man for all may harvesters (Foppa- you go boy!) he has the best harvesters and sold them at the same price since they were first created. (decent price too)

earlier i said i was gonna sell for 10 to 18k but this thread changed my mind any artisan that doesn't want to "sell to epople at high prices just to make money off the initail craze" just because they didn't like what the CH's did to them then SHOVE IT i'm gonna miss the craze because i'm not master but i say you should sell with the craze, but once the craze is ove don't drop to 3k for a vehicle that will ruin the market. if your sellng at 500k today you better sell at 50k tomorrow.

FYI: one master artisan i bought from made 200k in ten minutes selling at 30k a piece (count them thats 6.67 vehicles) those 6 cost him less than 7000 to make (not counting criticals; by the way crits arn't the customers fault)