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Thread: Survey Line Useless???
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Mogro
Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:04 am
#1
Couple brandys, food if you want a bit more range,
/survey;
/pause 2;
/macro SurveyLoop
Steer the swoop till you hit the sweet spot.
Personally I love it, I absolutely hated surveying before the patch.
Marjaliisa
Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:46 am
#2
There are local 'hills' and 'valleys' in the percentages, so I don't think that a lowered range makes up for the added mobility and speed. You might think you are on the best spot, but not actually be there.
Kryxal
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:33 pm
#3
This doesn't sound like nerfing the range, rather a relative lack of need for range, since you don't have to dismount. If you survey often enough, you can follow it at speed.
Liamo
Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:05 am
#4
I haven't surveyed since the patch but did they nerf the range? If they did, how will the survey line of the FS senses tree be affected?
JeCy
Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:28 pm
#6
with limited range it will take you 10 times as long to find a good spot... when i am driving and i pass a spot thats on the very edge of my range.. i change direction and at times it helps me find tiny high % spots that i never would have found with a shorter range.. soo no its not useless at all.. i would NEVER give up range...
Liamo
Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:31 pm
#7
I am super confused..first by the title of this thread and then the first post..it makes no sense to me relating to the posts subject and second, it has been stated and I asked here too, if the range had been nerfed. I was told it had, due to driving now. Well, I hadn't surveyed in awhile and last night I finally did. Nothing has changed range wise..maybe I'm confused because I've been an artisan for 1.5 years and the only thing I thought could boost range was the Force Trees.
Gooney
Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:54 am
#8
Using the 1st posters method, will work but not effieciently.
Many resources, particularily minerals run in "veins" not "spots".
Veins can have a peculiar way of manifesting "peaks", meaning if your following one it can peak up to say 60% then taper off only to peak again several hundred meters down the line. If your range is too low you wont notice the re-growth.
Case in point:
Thursday night a very, very good spawn of Kammris Iron spawned on Naboo. So like normal I looked at my over head map ctrl+v then placed two way points on the map--(I just call them 1 and 2). I then head out in that direction knowing that its fairly flat land and the best way to start surveying. I place these about 3km from the starport I land on. Lazy miners go closer. So I start surveying about 1.5km from the wp. I can usually pick up a trace somewhere along this line of travel then start following the vein.
So a typical spawn starts, 12%, 15, 18, 20 40, 60, 64 and wham! A whole field of harvs...newly placed at that. They are obviously harving this spawn but at such a low density! I continue, the spawn drops off, dog legs, then picks up again, same progression but up to 66% and wham tons of harvs. I again see the spawn falling off but one line is holding steady at 22-25 so I follow that. It starts peaking again 25, 36, 45, 67, 74, 78, 82! Heres my spawn. I mark it and follow it a bit more, but experiance tells me that a higher concentration on this vein is unlikely. I destroy the 2 lairs screwing up placement then plant all 7 medium and heavies.
So that extra time is reaping me about 3-5k more ironper harv, perday, all told probably about 150k (over spawn life)more than the folks placed on the 60% spawns and reducing my cost to a mere .06 cpu (self harvested power). Meaning that I can sell my resources cheaper, have higher profit for about 35-40 more minutes of work.
-Gooney
Guruweaver
Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:21 am
#9
Liamo wrote:I am super confused..first by the title of this thread and then the first post..it makes no sense to me relating to the posts subject and second, it has been stated and I asked here too, if the range had been nerfed. I was told it had, due to driving now. Well, I hadn't surveyed in awhile and last night I finally did. Nothing has changed range wise..maybe I'm confused because I've been an artisan for 1.5 years and the only thing I thought could boost range was the Force Trees.
Ya, nothing changed about survey/sampling. The only thing that changed was the ability to do it from a vehicle/creature mount.
Enhanced range is very nice, even on a vehicle, as it helps you hone in on best spots, absolute maxima vs local maxima as it were.
Guru
Happymob
Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:48 am
#10
There is one other significant difference between novice artisan and surveying-4. If you are sampling to view the stats of resources, at novice artisan, you must be on a 33% concentration or better. At survey-4, you only need a 10% spot. When you just have to know what the stats are on the new berries, for example, you can sometimes save a lot of time if you don't have to chase the 33% spot.
Liamo
Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:10 am
#11
Thanks for all the answers everyone..things make much more sense now
Liamo
Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:16 pm
#12
yes, the senses tree will do just that.
CTRL_ALT wrote:
Liamo wrote:
I am super confused..first by the title of this thread and then the first post..it makes no sense to me relating to the posts subject and second, it has been stated and I asked here too, if the range had been nerfed. I was told it had, due to driving now. Well, I hadn't surveyed in awhile and last night I finally did. Nothing has changed range wise..maybe I'm confused because I've been an artisan for 1.5 years and the only thing I thought could boost range was the Force Trees.
You can drive and survey! FS skills can increase survey range?
CTRL_ALT
Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:21 am
#13
Liamo wrote:
I am super confused..first by the title of this thread and then the first post..it makes no sense to me relating to the posts subject and second, it has been stated and I asked here too, if the range had been nerfed. I was told it had, due to driving now. Well, I hadn't surveyed in awhile and last night I finally did. Nothing has changed range wise..maybe I'm confused because I've been an artisan for 1.5 years and the only thing I thought could boost range was the Force Trees.
You can drive and survey! FS skills can increase survey range?
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