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Thread: HAs it gotten Stupider IN here?

RoboFish
Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:33 pm
#1

This is a post just to vent my frustration because of the 4 high lvl Artisans, a Master included,Who todayasked me questions a Novice should be asking. Such as what is the effectiveness of my crafting tool do, whats a specialized crafting tool, while in the center of town one asked told me to make him new tools cause he couldn't get the experimentation window to come up. Of course we was no where near a crafting station.


This is the exact reason why the devs frown on lvl grinding, these people dont learn a single thing. All they ask for is what the best thing is to grind and what resources they need. They dont learn what all the stats mean and how to make quality goods. And for the ones that dnt read the board I still find dozens of cdef pistols, guess they didn't take the time to learn what the practice box does.


Osrry



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RoboFish
Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:37 pm
#2

My topic was sent by accidentso let me finish what I had to say.


Sorry for ranting on but this is a growing problem and topics like this Crafting Macro, how to get Master Artisan Quickdont help. I have been a MAster Artisan since beta and it saddens me to see alot of these how do I put this nicely, incompettent Artisans soiling the good name of us who learn the trade well.

I mean when I ask a Master artisan for the highest conductiviy copper possible and he says what conductivity good for I thought just overall quality counted something is wrong isn't it?



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str8mix
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:38 am
#3

Look buddy.. , It's not the fault of the players.. who btw pay the same monthly fee as you so your no better then them, that the devs decided to have such an "organic" system to becoming a Jedi.



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Velisimner
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:44 am
#4

how else would you implement jedi you dolt? huh mister brainiac? mister game developer? huh? shut up!


str8mix and peoples quality of character within the game is better than others, no is the same, mister brilliant.


i laugh at you, str8mix, hahahahahahaaa!





Valomir Velisimner | mercenary

IgescaStorm
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:04 am
#5






Velisimner wrote:

how else would you implement jedi you dolt? huh mister brainiac? mister game developer? huh? shut up!


str8mix and peoples quality of character within the game is better than others, no is the same, mister brilliant.


i laugh at you, str8mix, hahahahahahaaa!









Velisimner, i see you are everywhere and think, you are something better! WoW, you got already 56 postings! Nice!


Make my pleasure and shut the f** up!


I will onestar you, everywhere i see you.





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MistakenIdent
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:24 am
#6

I have to agree with RoboFish here. If you are a holo grinder, then by all means do your grind then do the community a favor and get the hell out of the way. Don't bother trying to learn the craft. You only want to recover the credits it cost you to pursue your dream of Jedi, you don't have any intention of sticking with the craft.


We dedicated professionals have taken the time to grind to master, and have studied and learned what our craft is about. If you wear the MASTER tag for a profession, you had better be a MASTER at it. Don't be some stupid noob and ask basic questions that you should have learned when you were a noob.


RoboFish
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:54 am
#7






MistakenIdent wrote:

I have to agree with RoboFish here. If you are a holo grinder, then by all means do your grind then do the community a favor and get the hell out of the way. Don't bother trying to learn the craft. You only want to recover the credits it cost you to pursue your dream of Jedi, you don't have any intention of sticking with the craft.


We dedicated professionals have taken the time to grind to master, and have studied and learned what our craft is about. If you wear the MASTER tag for a profession, you had better be a MASTER at it. Don't be some stupid noob and ask basic questions that you should have learned when you were a noob.







Thank You and here is more proof of the problem


Here is a post from the forum on first page when I am posting this


Look at his Sig Master artisan --- Novice armorsmith --- Novice Architech --- Novice Weapon smith


And like I mention He doesn't kown a **edit** thing about the profession.


Can somebody explain


I am new and dont understand the the numbers under metal etc?


cr

conduct

decay resistance

heat resis

malleability

over all quality

shock resistance

unit toughness


I am confused on all of this. If their is a post allready can somebody link it. What aspects do each class need from the above term. Does one need more malleability whileanother needs unit toughness?


Fred Sanford the junkman
sanford'thejunkman
Master artisan --- Novice armorsmith --- Novice Architech --- Novice Weapon smith

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In-game name is Kahless!
Master Nerf Herder
If you avoid the truthe, you pay for your lies. A lie always does the most harm to the person who tells it.
~ Karen Moline, "Belladonna"

R.I.P Tivo Tenook and SkyPreacher1 who went out fighting the good fight for CH's everywhere
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Velisimner
Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:45 pm
#8

whats with the hostilies? did i offend you? i was talking to str8mix, not you. unless you know this guy.
you say

"Velisimner, i see you are everywhere and think, you are something better!"


do you play on Flurry? or are you talking about the forums? i have alot to say is that so wrong?


you also say

"WoW, you got already 56 postings! Nice!

Make my pleasure and shut the f** up!"


whats your point? are you trying to be sarcastic? are you congradualting me on my number of posts? i honestly do not know what you have said these things to me. please tell me.




Valomir Velisimner | mercenary

GuyInShades
Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:14 pm
#9

I think part of the problem is the game itself. By the time it's been up and running a while you have a growing number of master professionals in all crafting trades. Suddenly the market for sub-master products almost totally dries up. The only real option is to grind, to get up into the master box so you can compete on an equal footing with everyone else. In turn, through the grind, people don't learn a whole lot.


At the minute I'm 4-4-3-4, mostly grinded, but I've found a small niche for myself in tools and surveying devices. I don't make a hell of a lot, but before I had a decent enough level of experimentation I wouldn't really have been able to sell tools.


Therefore I think it's a little unfair to blame the players as they may not have had the opportunities to learn these things in the first place.


For me it's all about to begin again, are my 0-0-0-0 weaponsmith goods really going to sell when Joe Master's vendor is just down the street? Maybe, sometimes, but the grind is sure on again.

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