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Thread: Getting to novice architect Can you do it without grinding?

MaddoDoggiy
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:02 pm
#1

Is there anyone out there who got from Artisan (Engineering IV) to novice architect without grinding hundreds of muzzles or whatever to generate the 33KXP? Seems to me that that's about the only path available.

IrritationX
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:17 pm
#2

It's possible to do it without grinding, it just takes a bit longer. You can make things people actually need, sell them for a reasonable price, and gain usage XP. Basically, play an artisan/businessman instead of a crafting terminal/garbage disposal.




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saintchuck
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:24 pm
#3

Aye, it is possible. Am getting closer by the day. I make and sell power-ups, CDEFs, ect., only destroying the occasional flub. The trick is making good items that people want and selling them at a good price. You can make more than enough money to pay for harvesters and travel tickets.



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MaddoDoggiy
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:28 pm
#4

I've beentrying that, but it is very slow going. There are items that people will buy--survey devices, crafting tools, etc. The thing people will readily buy are harvester deeds, but you don't get general crafting XP for that.


I guess this gets back to the question that's been posted here dozens of times: what's selling well in quantity? I can sell a handful of items per day--tools, powerups, experimented weapons, etc.--but it's going to take forever to get 33K XP at that rate.

Plier
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:38 pm
#5

If you want to gain crafting xp at anything more than a snails pace, you must grind.





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Tuzmin
Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:12 am
#6

I can sell about 3k gen crafting exp worth of bone armor a day in the bazaar.



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Aithen
Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:57 am
#7

Making armor atm is the best exp I have found so far. I net approx 200 to 300 exp depending on the piece of bone armor I am making. However to get the full exp you have to make everything yourself. Fiberplast panels and everything to the actually combine. Sucks but at least it beats the 20 to 40 exp you get from making weapons or the powerups.
Valonyshhk
Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:36 am
#8

I havent felt the grind yet...played a Brawler, Scout, Artisan. I dont know how fast you want to be a Novice Architect, but I started pretty close to launch, have not played every day, and I am having a blast. Along the way I have made close to a Master Scout, Artisan and maxxed the 2 handed brawler line.

I have pretty good architect experience by making my own harvesters.

So...without knowing for sure what our goals are, in 3 weeks of enjoying myself, I think I will have Novice arhitect in about another week...
MaddoDoggiy
Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:18 am
#9

One of the issues is that building XP (that you get when you make harvesters) don't count as general crafting XP for the purpose of advancing to Novice Arcitect.
Aalstrom
Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:16 pm
#10

You can also try traveling to different cities to sell your wares.


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apcro
Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:48 pm
#11

I get 500GCXP for every bone armour chest plate I make - and there is no market for the armour at all. I've never sold armour.

My primary income is from missions where I get the bone & hide for the armour, and from selling mineral and chemical extractors - on another planet, as they don't sell locally. The only other thing I;ve managed to sell was a +25% max damage weapon powerup - the rest are just taking up space on the bazaar and costing me 20 creds each time I put them up for sale.

So, yeah, grind time. Although I did spend 21,000 GCXP on Novice Weaponsmith - which I had to pay an NPC trainer for as I couldn't find anyone who wanted to train me.

Speaking of which, I'm seeing a worrying trend on Eclipse of late - Artisans hassling people to take training in areas they do not want just so the Artisan can get enough Apprentice XP to get Master Artisan or whatever.

And what's up with asking for payment for training? Please...



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DDogwood
Mon Jul 14, 2003 6:20 am
#12

How much are you selling your Bone Armor for? My armor is far and away my best-selling item - I put the pieces on the Bazaar for 1200-2000 credits each, depending on quality, and they always sell within 2 hours. My UXP has actually become a significant part of my total XP in Crafting. I'm a casual player, totalling about 1 hour a day in game except on my days off work (when it's 4-6 hours/day), and I've already got Engineering IV, Surveying IV, and am very nearly at Domestic Arts III. On top of that, I have enough income to keep my harvesters and generator running while I'm off-line. About the only challenge I have is buying Hides and Bone at a decent price - going rate is at least 10 credits/hide on Valcyn, and it's hard to make money if I'm paying more than 5.
Tovalt
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:24 am
#13

If you go the Master Artisan route, it is easy to get lots of general crafting xp by making and selling electronic components. So far, I've made enough for droid engineer and I still have enough left over to pick up architect or any other elite artisan profession.






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