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Thread: How rare are 100% AV-21's?
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Dimear
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:58 am
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I was crafting some AV-21's the other day, and was able to make a 100% AV-21. Here's a screenshot.
I'm not sure why this one came out as 100%. All the other AV-21's I made were 97%. I used the same resources for all of them (the best ever spawned on Shadowfire), used the same tool (+15.00 tool), same crafting station (+44.07) in a manufacturing city, was buffed, and on the same crafting food and drink for all the AV-21's I crafted that day. I'm also a force sensitive master crafter (all 4 FS crafting trees + master), and was wearing an artisan crafting suit with +14 assembly, +20 experimentation.
As far as I can tell, the best I should have been able to do is 97% using Shadowfire's best ever resources. I've heard that crafters can achieve a 'critical' crafting success on very rare occasions. If this is what happened, then has anyone else had one on an AV-21 that let them get to 100%? Have any of you ever done this or seen a 100% AV-21? I'm trying to figure out how to price this. If 'critical' crafts are as rare as I've heard, then I imagine I have the only 100% AV-21 on my server, possibly on any server. How far off am I? Thanks.
I'm not sure why this one came out as 100%. All the other AV-21's I made were 97%. I used the same resources for all of them (the best ever spawned on Shadowfire), used the same tool (+15.00 tool), same crafting station (+44.07) in a manufacturing city, was buffed, and on the same crafting food and drink for all the AV-21's I crafted that day. I'm also a force sensitive master crafter (all 4 FS crafting trees + master), and was wearing an artisan crafting suit with +14 assembly, +20 experimentation.
As far as I can tell, the best I should have been able to do is 97% using Shadowfire's best ever resources. I've heard that crafters can achieve a 'critical' crafting success on very rare occasions. If this is what happened, then has anyone else had one on an AV-21 that let them get to 100%? Have any of you ever done this or seen a 100% AV-21? I'm trying to figure out how to price this. If 'critical' crafts are as rare as I've heard, then I imagine I have the only 100% AV-21 on my server, possibly on any server. How far off am I? Thanks.
SEAkridge
Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:12 am
#2
I have hit 99% a few times (one of the JTL coppers on sunrunner has a really nice SR), but I have never seen a 100% AV21. That is pretty sweet
Dpjarrett
Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:02 am
#3
I consistantly hit 99% with my server's best resources (1000 SR Ferrous and 998 SR Nonferrous), but I've never managed to hit 100%. Well, not since Patch Day anyway, but that was a special circumstance. If you don't know what Patch Day was, don't worry about it. It was a long time ago and it's not going to happen again.
In any event, I have heard of others hitting 100% as well, but you're correct in your assumption that it's fairly rare.
As far as pricing goes I don't think you should expect to get toomuch more for it than for a regular high quality AV-21. Functionally, the only difference between your 100% AV-21 and a 97% AV-21 is going to be around 10-15 hitpoints. That said, however, you might get lucky and find someone who would pay more for the sheer novelty of having a 100% AV-21. Or better yet, maybe two people who want it for the novelty and will bid against each other. 
My advice would be to run a special auction on your server's trade forum. Start the bidding at whatever you normally sell AV-21s for and just see where it goes from there. Worst case scenario: you get for it what you get for any other AV-21.
Good luck!
Dimear
Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:37 am
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Yeah - functionality isn't really the issue. This thing might take 1 more hit from a nuna before it explodes. But people don't buy AV-21's for functionality in the first place. In my opinion, anyone who buys an AV-21 is crazy (and rich).
A swoop is pretty fast, and costs about 20k. An AV-21 is slightly faster, so an eccentric person might pay 5 x the price over a swoop: 100k. But AV-21's start at around 3 mil on my server. Anyone who pays 150 x the price for something that's marginally faster is buying it as a status symbol. Now the best AV-21 ever crafted is the best of the best. But in my opinion, only insanity combined with great wealth would make someone buy it.
Thanks for the advice though. I'll probably just throw it up on a vendor for a few mil higher than the normal AV-21's, just to see if someone eventually buys it. If not, I may keep it for a while. Good to know that this is very rare but not unique.
And right now the best non-ferrous metal on Shadowfire is only 896 SR. If we get a spawn in the high 900's, I think the value of this thing will go way down...
A swoop is pretty fast, and costs about 20k. An AV-21 is slightly faster, so an eccentric person might pay 5 x the price over a swoop: 100k. But AV-21's start at around 3 mil on my server. Anyone who pays 150 x the price for something that's marginally faster is buying it as a status symbol. Now the best AV-21 ever crafted is the best of the best. But in my opinion, only insanity combined with great wealth would make someone buy it.
Thanks for the advice though. I'll probably just throw it up on a vendor for a few mil higher than the normal AV-21's, just to see if someone eventually buys it. If not, I may keep it for a while. Good to know that this is very rare but not unique.
And right now the best non-ferrous metal on Shadowfire is only 896 SR. If we get a spawn in the high 900's, I think the value of this thing will go way down...
Dpjarrett
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:02 pm
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Dimear wrote:
And right now the best non-ferrous metal on Shadowfire is only 896 SR. If we get a spawn in the high 900's, I think the value of this thing will go way down...
Even if you get something in the high 900's a 100% AV-21 will still be fairly rare. Whenever I craft AV-21s I use 1000 SR ferrous and 997 SR nonferrous and they still only come to 99%. I don't know if using 1000 SR nonferrous would result in a 100% AV-21 for me all the time or not. To my knowledge there is no server that has had spawns of both ferrous and nonferrous metals with SRs of 1000.
Anyway, going back to what you were saying about the value of AV-21s, I agree that they're mostly a status symbol, but don't forget that it's not really the speed that makes an AV-21 great: it's the terrain negoation. Over flat ground an AV-21 and a swoop will tie everytime, but if you throw even a tiny hill in there the swoop will fall way behind.
Heart-of-a-Jedi
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:18 pm
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Was cruising the posts and saw this. On Bria we got a spawn of 999 SR mystery ferrous and not to recently a spawn of 995 SR aluminum. It puts my experimental without anything butbeing master artisan, at 99.9% and I've always wondered if the 100% ones would have any kind of bonusin their health, like being at 3500 instead of 3000. My guess is is that if you made one that's 3% more than what you were making them at before then charge 3% more ? Just a thought but I think I would keep it just for bragging rights
Dimear
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:34 pm
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Yeah - I threw it on my vendor for 25 mil. I doubt it will ever sell. I'm fine with that. But I'll be fine if it does sell too.
I thought that aluminum was capped at 900 SR, and that only phrik alum could even approach 900? Shadowfire has certainly never seen one over 900...
I thought that aluminum was capped at 900 SR, and that only phrik alum could even approach 900? Shadowfire has certainly never seen one over 900...
SEAkridge
Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:43 am
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The JTL resources have no caps. You can get that JTL aluminum or copper with SR way up in the 900s.
Warryyr
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:02 am
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A 100% durability AV-21? That's a spicy meat-a-balla!!!!!!
Very nice.
JeCy
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:25 am
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lol 25 mill.. thats tooo funny It will still get one shoted by any NPC that will hit vehicles.. soo from a money standpoint its really not worth anything more than a 90..
I love my AV-21 I only use it on naboo 99% i have used it else where but after having it out on lok the other day and my frineds swoop got one shoted and my AV was parked right next to it.. Ill never do that again. But there is nothing like rolling in your AV on boo : P
On a side note as a crafter Kudos on the build : )
Je'Cy
xDiggerx
Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:01 pm
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Yes, very nice on the build. I have never gotten 100%.
Just a side note as to what 100% versus say a more common 98% would mean. I normally make 98% AV 21's for people, they bring me the goods, I craft them up, etc...they pay me for my time and resources. These 98% AV 21's have a HAM on them of 2,980. You know what a 100% AV 21 would HAM out at?? 3,000.
So while it's great you hit 100% and should be proud of it....not sure 20 extra durability points is worth 25 million.
Good luck.
ehenn
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:23 pm
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just made one, and sold for 5 mil credits, just 2 minutes after i posted the message on the forum. cheap, yes, but would i prefer to keep it on the vendor for 20+ mil forever, no. also the buyer tested it and it was 3000hp.
resources i used were 1000 SR iron and 936 SR (1000OQ this one, not that it matters) aluminum. I usually hit 98% with this combination.
Bockeroo
Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:25 am
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excentric and rich? does me owning two AV21s make me excentric and rich?
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