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StevieBUKDroidEngineer

Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:02 am

swampdonkeys wrote:

Its hard with the resources needed for the barc speeder repair kit to make them. Well it takes time so some *(^^%^ on corbantis starts saying he is only going to sell them for 30k, well he just screwed the rest of us cause every customer will give an attitude for anything over that. Thx dude for messing up something we artisans use to survive and make money!!!!!! Just when we got a money winner you kill us thx, you made a big mistake. SOrry im angry but enuff man!!!!

No offence but you obviously have no business sence. Its called business. You don't like it, get out of the Artisan game. As an ex MArtisan and MDE I didn't make much money. Once I got to MDE I hardly made any droids, never made much money from it but knew MDE's that did. Even as MArtisan I didn't make much money. Then I discovered something. Swoops. And in about a week I made 3mill. So saying you use those kits to survice and make money is just cr@p. If you want to make money. Make crates of swoops, stand in the starports on Dath, mainly the science outpost and flog them either in crates or singles, whatever anyone wants, to the players that are hunting on dath or do the village. Thats what I did and went from only having a small amount of money to having 3mill in about a week.

And I'll say again. What the bloke is doing is business. If you don't like it, your in the wrong field. I'm in the UK and over here we have shops called 99p stores. Almost everything is 99p. Coke, Linx Spray etc etc. Brand names all at 99p. They can sell at such a low price as they import them from other countries. Do you hear the big supermarkets moaning that they are under cutting them, no, why, 'cause its business.

Do what someone has suggested and buy up all his stock and sell it on at a profit, class him as a wholesaler, maybe even put him on your books as your wholesaler.

I myself, not a crafter anymore or merchant, still like the business side. Now there is a 20k limit on the bazaar, I can now use it as my vendor. Now with all these new MBHers, I'm one myself. I found a nice MDE who makes the Arak whatever droids in crates at a cheap price. I buy all his stock and then sell it on the bazaar to make a few k profit. So he makes money and so do I.

So instead of whining like a 10 year old, learn some business sence, go out and buy up his whole stock and sell it on for a profit. Failing that, sell crates of swoops to hunters or Jedi.

CorvidianX

Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:15 pm

#15

Sniper24 wrote:
Am i missing something? The pilots that attack you are teir one, for the carbonaceous astroid.

I havent tried out yavin yet.

Alright, just as a note - Yavin's asteroids are guarded by tier 3's. Provided you aren't trying to mine in a TIE/Ln (Imperial tier 1 ship), you shouldn't have any problems.

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Sniper24

Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:52 pm

#16

Thanks, i will keeps this in mind...

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Smart_Darwin

Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:30 pm

#17

No one has said you don't have the right to sell items for whatever price you want. You do. The question you have to ask yourself is, are your business practices hurting others. Perhaps you don't mind spending 30 mins making one of these kits. How long will you continue to do this? The galaxy needs a pretty large and steady supply of these items. You can flood the marekt with cheap supply, but soon enough you wil be spending your time elsewhere. In the mean time, I have loads of people asking me to supply these. My time is valuable. I expect to be compensated for its expenditure. Clients that were used to buying cheap product from one source will generally belive that is the "true" value of the product.

I admire your goals. I really do: I am glad someone is out there looking out for new players, instead of paying them a few hundred k for thier BARCs. How long will you continue to supply these kits at that price? At somepoint, you will have to tell them to try elsewhere. They would be better served by presenting them with a swoop and a warning not to ride thier BARCs in places where they will get attacked. Leave running suppling the galaxy with the vital goods it needs to people who know how to do so in a responsible, sustainable manner.

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entrailsgalore2

Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:03 pm

#18

If im going to sell a product, Im not thinking about otehr customers. The point is to try to pay for as less as possible for products then resell them for as much a syou can but try to outsell your compeditors. If I sell barc repair kits for 80k , and it only costs me 20k for resources each repair kit, im outselling everyone selse AND making 60k profit. Now when people look for barc repair kits you think they will spend 300k on one? or 80k on one maybe 160k for two? now when this happens, as a company I can either leav emy prices the way they are and HOPE I dont go out of buisness, or lower my prices to match the market, or outsell by charging 75k, or buying out those 80k barcs and then reselling for 300k. OUt of all thsoe options, the most logical ( in terms of making money) would be to buy his whole stock then resell his whole stock...and hopefully you will sell out before he has a chance to restock. So instead of spending time complaining about osmeone outselling you, you can get on the offensive and still make money of him, mor ethan you normally would have.

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oscabegra

Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:09 pm

#19

I just don't see how someone can make the statement that the BARC repair kits are the only thing that you can make money off of. I'm on corbantis as well and have made over 4 million credits off of selling vehicles in the last week.

Osca

Sniper24

Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:21 pm

#20

True, its the basic laws of supply and demand. But, lets be realistic, 300k for a BARC repair kit means that you are charging 200 CPU. Now, darwin, i see your point, and i will examine this, as it is very true, but hopefully, at my price, it will bring the artisans to realism at the price of 300k, is outrageaous.

Even if a artisan buys these resources needed for 30k, (20 CPU) to market them at 300k means 10 times the price it cost them, whatever happened to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

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GrandPotato

Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:40 pm

#21

But I've seen people offering upwards of 100cpu for these resources. They take a lot of time to harvest. Solo, it can take a large chunk of play time to gather enough resources for a single kit. Plus the fact that even with a class III mining laser, you're pretty gimped in a fight.


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Sniper24

Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:32 am

#22

I agree with you kyyle, because when i first put the price at 30k, i started thinking about how long these take to mine etc.

I think that 100k per repair kit is a fair price, because it takes about 30 minutes to get the resources for one.

30 minutes per kit means that in five hours, i will have enough for 10 repair kits, and if they all sell at 100k, thats 1 million in 5 hours, not bad money.

Who knows? maybe after the first batch of 10, i will get tired of space mining, and jack to price up to 150k? (i think that would be my max selling price) we will just have to see....

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Dpjarrett

Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:05 pm

#23

I guess I don't see what the big deal is really... let the person who wants to sell them at 30k sell them at 30k. Eventually, one of two things is going to happen:

Word gets around that he sells them really cheaply and everyone will want to buy from him; he won't be able to keep up with demand and people will go elsewhere just because they want their speeder fixed now and they're willing to pay extra for that expedience.

Pretty much the same as situation one, but he realizes that he could be making more money if he jacks up the price and suddenly he'll be selling at more or less the same pricelevel as everyone else.

Personally, I don't see these as being a huge seller no matter what your price. I don't plan to stock them on a regular basis simply because I don't want to bother with the asteroid resources. I've already had a friend contact me wanting to buy one off of me for 50k. I told him the same thing I've told everyone else who's asked me about them: "Bring me the resources and i'll craft it for you, otherwise I can't help you."

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entrailsgalore2

Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:00 am

#24

Not everyone can uses these kits....so not everyone will buy them. The way you make money is to make a product alot of people can use. How many people in game has a BARC speeder? definatly not everyone.

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JeCy

Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:07 am

#25

Elyssa wrote:

I'm saying mark them up to 300k-400k.

lol you are ruthless : P

btw thats why my good deal vendors are NOT on global search /smile They are for my regular customers, they know where to get the good deals...

Message Edited by JeCy on 06-06-2005 06:14 AM

ASHRID

Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:52 am

#26

Bear in mind there are 2 customer groups here

The newbies who just started the game with the Total experience

The vets who either purchased their BARC from a newbie or purchased the total experience in addition to their original retail box

You are not going to have a problem with group 2 complaining about the cost of a repair kit (certainly if they already purchased the BARC for several million.............). Group 1 will complain even if its as low as 30k because they dont have much money [yet]..............

But if he is selling too cheap [in your opinion] buy all his stock and resell it for more - I make good money doing this all the time on various items and have done since launch

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