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Thread: Powerups Question

Uther_PnDragoon
Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:20 pm
#1

Hi, is it possible to make ranged powerups with min dmg 30+ and max dmg 15+?? I've been experimenting for 2 hours with no luck.


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BiancaMinola
Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:37 pm
#2

Muzzles.


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Gimpfu
Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:52 pm
#3


I have never seen minimum damage as the primary stat on a ranged weapon powerup. I've crafted quite a few.

BlueMilk
Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:48 am
#4

Muzzles can do Max Damage 30 and Min Damage 15, but not the other way around. No powerups can do the combination you're looking for.


Considering that powerups increase by percentage, you'lldomoredamageoverall by increasing your Max Damage as much as possible. Is there a particular reason you want that combination?




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kasuta
Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:12 am
#5

Short-circuited couplers have min damage as the primary stat, but you cannot get max damage as the secondary. I like the powerup guide found at http://swg.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=119



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Empty_Skull
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:36 am
#6

i have made a few Min damage +31% power ups however the second stat is usally speed or mind or something else. I spent well over 4 hours these last few days experimenting and i havent ever seen the combo you are looking for. Some combos i suppose just wont go together.



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Squeg
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:46 pm
#7

I think i've seen these for sale. I believe they were scopes, but may have been barrels, fuzzy memory. Muzzles, as stated above can be 33% MAX/ 16% MIN damage.

The muzzle combo actually better as it gives you a higher effective DPS. The bonuses from powerups are Percentage based, so you'll get the highest gain when applying them to bigger weapons. Speed powerups make a bigger differnece when applied to a slow rifle than when applied to a fast pistol. Damage mods add more overall damage when applied to max damage than when applied to min damage. I understand that no-one likes high-variance damage and that max/min powerups increase the variance while min/max powerups decrease the variance. But the over all damage per second is definitely higher with the max/min powerup.
BiancaMinola
Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:57 pm
#8

Sorry, I misread the question. I don't know if this is possible or not.


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BlueMilk
Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:42 pm
#9






Squeg wrote:
I understand that no-one likes high-variance damage and that max/min powerups increase the variance while min/max powerups decrease the variance. But the over all damage per second is definitely higher with the max/min powerup.





Squeg's got it right. I'd read about how an increase invarience is a bad thing, but when I sat down to do the math, I can't see the disadvantage.I find that you get a higher damage-per-second with max/min muzzles.


Also, FYI, the maximum possible value for a powerup is 33.164997/16.335501. It's not necessary to use the absolute max OQ both components, but I'm not sure exactly where the threshold is. For instance, I can use a mineral wih OQ 987 andchemical with997 and get the best stats possible. If I switch in a 996 Mineral and keep the 997 Chemical, there is no improvement.




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BlueMilk
Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:43 pm
#10






Squeg wrote:
I understand that no-one likes high-variance damage and that max/min powerups increase the variance while min/max powerups decrease the variance. But the over all damage per second is definitely higher with the max/min powerup.





Squeg's got it right. I'd read about how an increase invarience is a bad thing, but when I sat down to do the math, I can't see the disadvantage.I find that you get a higher damage-per-second with max/min muzzles.


Also, FYI, the maximum possible value for a powerup is 33.164997/16.335501. It's not necessary to use the absolute max OQ both components, but I'm not sure exactly where the threshold is. For instance, I can use a mineral wih OQ 987 andchemical with997 and get the best stats possible. If I switch in a 996 Mineral and keep the 997 Chemical, there is no improvement.


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outtacontrol
Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:08 am
#11

As you know the at least to my knowledge what you make is random. But I can make a precision scope of targeting where the min. damage is is the primary and speed is the secondary
Abaley
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:53 pm
#12

I was wondering is there s specific way to get min max powerups im trying to get min-max ones and havent got one yet out of 50+ crafts im master artisan with good resources any hep,

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faarsider
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:00 am
#13

love the link Stuman never noticed that one before lets hope the author or some else does the same indepth overhaul of the new power ups
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