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Thread: A failer to communicate

santasjedi
Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:18 am
#1

What is the point of testing in TC if there is no feed back from the devs.?
ZionHalcyon
Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:21 am
#2

Would that be anything like a "failure" to communicate?



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santasjedi
Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:33 am
#3

huh, no wonder nobody likes you.
ZionHalcyon
Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:49 am
#4




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Kelloch
Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:55 am
#5

What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.



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santasjedi
Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:32 pm
#6

makes sense!

Milgram
Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:21 pm
#7







Kelloch wrote:
What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.





After all, this isTHEIR game. We are here by INVITATION ONLY!!!! We should feel privelaged to play it. What an honor it is to play test their upgrade free of charge. We just need to ShutTFU, bend over, pay our $15 per month, and ignore all the "please ignore our dust, we are CONSTANTLYremodeling" dust.

Message Edited by Milgram on 04-20-2005 04:10 PM




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Kelloch
Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:41 pm
#8



Milgram wrote:


Kelloch wrote:
What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.


After all, this is their game. We are here by invitation only. We just need to ShutTFU, pay our $15 per month, and ignore all the "please ignore our dust, we are remodeling" dust.




While, I agree its their game, I wouldn't say we need to be quiet. We are a customer base and we should voice our opinion if we think the changes aren't good for the product. Doesn't mean they will listen to us, but if they were smart they would take our opinions into account.



Sune Omare
TitanTen
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:00 pm
#9






Kelloch wrote:





Milgram wrote:






Kelloch wrote:
What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.





After all, this is their game. We are here by invitation only. We just need to ShutTFU, pay our $15 per month, and ignore all the "please ignore our dust, we are remodeling" dust.






While, I agree its their game, I wouldn't say we need to be quiet. We are a customer base and we should voice our opinion if we think the changes aren't good for the product. Doesn't mean they will listen to us, but if they were smart they would take our opinions into account.



I think milgram forgot the /sarcasm at the end of his post... if not, well i hope you never get an undercooked steak at a resturant...




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Fellstaff
Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:08 pm
#10






santasjedi wrote:

What is the point of testing in TC if there is no feed back from the devs.?





Feedback is what we give the devs.. the devs give us patches







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Kelloch
Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:12 pm
#11



TitanTen wrote:


Kelloch wrote:


Milgram wrote:


Kelloch wrote:
What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.


After all, this is their game. We are here by invitation only. We just need to ShutTFU, pay our $15 per month, and ignore all the "please ignore our dust, we are remodeling" dust.




While, I agree its their game, I wouldn't say we need to be quiet. We are a customer base and we should voice our opinion if we think the changes aren't good for the product. Doesn't mean they will listen to us, but if they were smart they would take our opinions into account.

I think milgram forgot the /sarcasm at the end of his post... if not, well i hope you never get an undercooked steak at a resturant...





heh...yeah..sorry..long day and didn't see it was milgram. I need to stop reading the updates on the CU, its making me pessimistic of everything I read.

btw...what's wrong with undercooked steak? I like it mooing when I eat it.



Sune Omare
TitanTen
Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:55 pm
#12






Kelloch wrote:





TitanTen wrote:





Kelloch wrote:





Milgram wrote:






Kelloch wrote:
What we have to understand it that the Devs only want feedback on the combat 'bugs' with maybe some feedback on balance with the system they've designed (hence the questions on the /con system). They have absolutely no intention on taking feedback on the overall design (intention) of the system and doing anything with it by the go live date. They've got about 2 weeks for major bugs to be done in order to make the go live date.

After that...who knows? Maybe they will have a dialogue with the players to see how things can be improved, but I'm not holding my breath because they haven't given any intention of that yet.





After all, this is their game. We are here by invitation only. We just need to ShutTFU, pay our $15 per month, and ignore all the "please ignore our dust, we are remodeling" dust.






While, I agree its their game, I wouldn't say we need to be quiet. We are a customer base and we should voice our opinion if we think the changes aren't good for the product. Doesn't mean they will listen to us, but if they were smart they would take our opinions into account.



I think milgram forgot the /sarcasm at the end of his post... if not, well i hope you never get an undercooked steak at a resturant...








heh...yeah..sorry..long day and didn't see it was milgram. I need to stop reading the updates on the CU, its making me pessimistic of everything I read.

btw...what's wrong with undercooked steak? I like it mooing when I eat it.





Oh sorry the undercooked steak part was for milgram. Because if he takes everything lying down as his post suggests (without the sarcasm in it) then its just dumb that if you pay for something and then get handed something you didnt want that you dont complain..



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Halvare
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:15 am
#13

What SoE is doing is getting FREE QA testers to test the game for bugs without paying out for the additional man power.


Congrats to you all, not only are you paying for a monthly sub, but you are also paying for being a tester...



Let the moneys continue....


*offer a banana*





MOO!
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