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Thread: Having trouble with Ubese

Broog
Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:34 am
#1

I recently mastered armorsmith, had some real nice resources and figured I could start making some nice stuff today. I read through the armorcrafting guide and figured ok no problem.


Boy was I wrong.


I have a factory run of 12% kinetic layers (hand made one at 13% but I am hopeful 12% will be good enough).


When I made my advanced Ubese segments I think the best I could get to was 30-31% kinetic, by pumping all my exp. points into experimental resists and the 3 i had left over into base. The % was pretty low on these I believe maybe 50-60%? I think the cause is the Axidite Iron I have is really, really bad. Under 100 OQ and maybe 600 SR.


In any event using the best other resources I have (some real good steel and kammris iron, decent neutronium, decent polymer and hides) the absolute best Ubese gloves I was able to make was 67% and it was heavy as hell.


Unlike in the guide, I pumped all my exp points into experimental effectiveness because I wanted to see how high I could get that.


So here are my questions if anyone could give me a tip:


1) Axidite Iron on my server seems to be extraordinarily rare. The stats are never great but the stuff I have is terrible. Is this what is holding me back? 50% of the advanced segment is made with this stuff and OQ under 100 I have to think this is what is messing me up. What should a good advanced Ubese segment have as kinetic %? If it should be like 45% and the best I can get is 31% then there is my problem.


2) I typically see 70-71% Ubese all over on my server, and now even some 75% is popping up and I have heard of even better. Am I doing the experimentation wrong? Seems when I follow the guide and maximize my base effectiveness my special kinetic never gets real high (first gloves I made I think were 56% or something really bad like that.


3) I do not have any segment enhancers at the moment. Is this what I am really missing? Do you really need amazing enhancers to make good armor? I would think if I get some good enhancers I am going to be using them for composite, not ubese.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.



- Broog

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Lomar4976
Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:26 am
#2

When I make ubese I make layers with all experimentation in kinetic resist


Then all experimentation on the segment into kinetic


Then all expermentation on the final combine into kinetic.


Any extra points at each stage go into durability/HAM


Sounds like youre following that rule with your crafting, so by the sounds of it, yes, your axidite iron (or resources in general) is holding you back.


67% isnt too bad though... on eclipse we've never had any good spawns of axidite and very few spawns of half decent neutronium, so our standard is around 68-71% kinetic.





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Broog
Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:09 pm
#3

Thanks for the info at least I am doing it right - I dont have the game up now so I cant get to my stats but the axidite is horrible. However the resources I used for the layers is extrememly good, the new steel on Lowca was 960+oq and 999SR, and I used some 900+ OQ/SR polymer, and real good gemstone.


The most recent neutronium wasnt too bad dont have stats but maybe 1200 combined OQ/SR which seems ok for neutronium, great iron and that steel above and the best in hides I can find (1600 combined for wooly maybe 1650 leathery).


Just has to be that axidite.


Now I am having trouble with composite though lol. My Beyrllius isn't great, colat isn't great, Kirium is never great, intrusive mediocre, in any event best base I can get is like 60% and by doing that I cant even max kinetic, I get to around 74% kinetic, and have no points for durability.


I am having fun though just wish I could find some better resources. Thanks again for the reply!





- Broog

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Srednii
Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:45 pm
#4

Using 906 oq axidite and 13% layers I make 38% kinetic Adv. Ubese Segments and the 74% ubese.



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Broog
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:13 am
#5

Yea I need some axidite problem is it hasnt shifted in for awhile on Lowca and what I have I think is from the last shift, but it is terrible material. Oh well.



- Broog

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bradimere
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:31 pm
#6

the best axidite on lowca i found was Evomon OQ 655, SR 587, UT 52b, Mall 185, and the other was Dillodiho OQ 644, SR 545, UT 621, Mall 238


that iron allowed me to make the best ubese KIN of 67% on a lucky experimentation, but ave is 64 -66%


Shlo_mo_shun
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:13 pm
#7

2 THINGS: As everyone else is saying, your Axidite is pretty crappy. Upgrade that and you will be started.


Second, your layers could have higher kinetic. I make my current Ubese layers with really great resources. Starting percentages are 20%/27%/27%, and with some amazing results, I can get up to 14/14/14 2%/14% Kinetic Layers. That alone would up your suit by 2% kinetic.


Good luck.





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Broog
Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:56 am
#8

Thanks will give that a shot - just finished my busy time of year at work so I can really get started.


The frustrating thing is the resources tho. Axidite has not spawned in a long time on my server and the last spawn was the crap that I have.


So I am thinking I have some cash I can buy some.


Wrong.


Some guy opened a bid today for some real nice old resources he had because he had not played in awhile. His 100k of Colat was bought out at an undisclosed price, the first bid on his intrusive ore was 100 cpu for 100k units, and I think the first bid on the Axidite was 40 cpu for 100k units. Vertex gems went to 22cpu for 175k units.


So after 1 bid I realized I just will never make it as an armorsmith because the established armorsmiths will just shut everyone else out. Kind of sucks I guess I can sit around and wait for more of these metals to shift in its just frustrating. I always knew I was not rich most I ever had was maybe 4.5 mil credits and now I have maybe 2.5, but I don't even have enough cash to make a bid lol.


Wish there was a better way =/ I guess I can make cheap armor and sell it cheap to the poor population.


Thanks for all the info!!!





- Broog

Remember, you will Want To Buy crystals, always.
Leelak
Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:26 pm
#9

It takes a while Broog. I myself am just getting to the point where I am able to make decent ubese. I hit 75% for the first time last night (I'm also on Lowca), but I've been a master for close to 3-4 months now. I'm hitting that right now only because I managed to get a hold of a small quantity of decent axidite (it makes about 2% difference in my segments).


I use 13% kinetic layers (I don't like wasting Syte in layers for just 1% more)


I get 37% segments (35% with my axidite that's lower)


With one amazing success in experimentation, I get 75% out of it.


I was making 65% to start, then bumped to 70/71, now I'm at 75% just from picking up better resources as I went along. There are two very good polymers out, make sure to getone of them. Go get the current axidite too. It's not that great, but it's a hell of a lot better than what you have.





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