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Thread: Crafting experimentation Idea

Hulksmash90
Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:25 pm
#1

No feedback at all?



Xandir Joxan (Gorath)
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AegolinAdaron
Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:33 pm
#2

What an excellent idea. I love it!


Emily
Tribuss
Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:47 pm
#3


I like the idea on not having mass produced armor and such. But this also serves the population....since weapons and guns are becoming disposable commodities and such there has to be a massed produced aspect as well. I agree...if the true nature of the question is role playing and such...mass producing things waters down the profession and the game in some respects.


Thus, for myself I actually play and role play...and on a general basis do custom orders for people. The draw back for me is the fact I generally do not have as much armor on a vendor for sale....I am always busy trying to fill orders but....I dont make hardly the credits others do. But for me it is the role play interaction and the hunt for materials (loot and resources) to try and craft the "legendary" type of armor and such.


I like the idea of trying to develop into the game a bit more uniqueness.


io
Azuron
Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:11 pm
#4

Not a bad idea.. : )



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Volaar
Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:49 pm
#5

Interesting idea, but I think it needs more work. Basically, if you wanted to hit a legendary result, it would be mostly a grind though the lower end armor just to have the good result to auction off. This would mainly be like grinding AS again. What about the parts that you need three identicle? You have to have those from a factory, so it is neccessary to have them from a factory crate, requiring that you are able to make a schematic! There are unique uber guns out there, generally since the Master WS takes krayt tissues, and the best materials he has, and prays that he gets a awesome slice, there are a very few of them out there. I have seen some awesome comp armor, made from legendary krayt plates, and I tell you that it was uber. There are uber armor and weapons out there, and they are very ungiue, and very expensive, and allot of time and effort went into making them with the existing system too. You have an interesting idea, but not a complete one, and not one that can easily be changed to.



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Hulksmash90
Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:20 pm
#6

From a coding standpoint, it's actually very easy to implement.


The stuff about needing 3 identicals....well, that's what factories are for. I am not saying anything about not factory runs of anything, but this system would make it so not everything is all factory runs, like it mostly is now. as for the grinding the lower stuff? i don't know what you mean...I am saying this about everytime you craft ANYTHING, if you hit the money exp shot, then you can make a single item instead of a schem, sucks when you are making something that is normally required in identical quantities, but hey...it's how it goes.



Xandir Joxan (Gorath)
Doreedo (Bloodfin)
Suu Shi (Lowca)
Tubby (Bria)
Harvester Bob (Ahazi)


Mastered:
Artisan, Brawler, Marksman, Medic, Scout, Entertainer, Carbineer, Rifleman, Image Designer, Doctor, Pikeman, Pistoleer, Combat Medic, Fencer, Bio-Engineer. Missing badges for Artisan, Brawler, Carbineer, Rifleman, and Image Designer.
Hulksmash90
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:16 am
#7



Ok, to the smiths who think that they should be able to craft the best stuff in the game....No.


They shouldn't.Not currently.WHY? because I said do. Also, if you could craft the best stuff in the game, then you would be able to mass produce the best stuff in the game. Then there would be no pride among the hunters. Look at the exceptional t-21rifle's owner. He's having a view party for his gun. Look how many people are drooling over it. Now think. What is someone was at his viewing party was to come up to him and say... "Nice gun. You shop at Bob's weapon Emporium too, huh? yeah. I got my exceptional t-21 as well. Nice guy, that Bob."


Now, if artisans and crafter could get EXCEPTIONAL results and Legendary results on experimentations, BUT couldn't do a schematic on them, sure. Now Imagine if you were messing around and making a good T-21... You experimented and it told you that the experimentation wasa legendary success and you could produce a final product, but not be given an opportunity to make a manufacturing schematic of it. So you WOULD be making the best guns in the game, AND they would still be unique. You'd get a lot more weaponsmsiths and other crafters constantly crafting weapons instead of making the occasional gun to rebuild vendor stock. it would give you something to shoot for. Not as many cookie cutter guns as every smith would spend a day making guns by hand hoping for a legendary experimentation with awesome results. the non-uber guns would get put on the vendor....making each gun good, but not exactly the same as the others.


Imagine that. Taking the time and getting legendary experimentation on a component and waiting to get another legendary experimentation on another component, then finally building your pride and joy weapon. (maybe getting the super rare legendary experimentation mod on the final build) and having that to show to people. Now that would make weaponsmithing exciting instead of the standard Log on, check vendors, check email, replace stock in vendors. log off, play real character.


What do you think? I think it';s such a great Idea, i am posting it to my galaxies board, the smith's professions boards and feel free to copy it to your galaxy if you like the idea.

Message Edited by Hulksmash90 on 04-16-2004 04:25 PM



Xandir Joxan (Gorath)
Doreedo (Bloodfin)
Suu Shi (Lowca)
Tubby (Bria)
Harvester Bob (Ahazi)


Mastered:
Artisan, Brawler, Marksman, Medic, Scout, Entertainer, Carbineer, Rifleman, Image Designer, Doctor, Pikeman, Pistoleer, Combat Medic, Fencer, Bio-Engineer. Missing badges for Artisan, Brawler, Carbineer, Rifleman, and Image Designer.
TurboSith
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:24 am
#8

basically this system prohibits legendary exp on identical factory subs which usually are the deciding factor.... so that will be the issue..


otherwise this is a excellent system to be added... should throw it to a craft correspondent to bring to teh devs





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oiyan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:56 am
#9

you play diablo too much



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Hulksmash90
Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:49 pm
#10

thanks for the support...Now who should i forward this to?



Xandir Joxan (Gorath)
Doreedo (Bloodfin)
Suu Shi (Lowca)
Tubby (Bria)
Harvester Bob (Ahazi)


Mastered:
Artisan, Brawler, Marksman, Medic, Scout, Entertainer, Carbineer, Rifleman, Image Designer, Doctor, Pikeman, Pistoleer, Combat Medic, Fencer, Bio-Engineer. Missing badges for Artisan, Brawler, Carbineer, Rifleman, and Image Designer.
dsvella
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:08 pm
#11

Hulksmash90


and you sir can sod off!!!


honestly, i will not use the AS or WS or most ofther professions if i can mas produce an item that i am proud of. if i make a chest plate that comes out far better than i expected then ill schem it and shove it in a factory. i make a name for myself and i produce quality wares.


also i agree. you do play diablo too much.




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