Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Zero HAM Biceps/Bracers.
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UmmonPrime
Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:09 pm
#1
Yep, I made a pair of 0 HAM gloves the other day, so I know you can do it with bracers. Didn't try with RIS layers only, so I'll have to do that this weekend.
May even be able to use base level NS shards to make sure it happens.
Cianhydle
Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:43 pm
#3
I suspect so, I commonly use 3% layers anda 10/10/10 (but preferrably a bit nicer) shard to make some spiffy 64% base 20/0/20 HAMbiceps/bracers/gloves for personal use. I think one of the biceps ended up being 79% post-sliced base, 11/0/3 HAM. But mostly they end up slice for encumbrance. Boots turn out good too but around 20/10/20.
My personal suit I used to grind FS is 400/390/410 and it had double layer kinetic helm/chest/pants (medium weight, 80% kinetic replacements thati just had them laying around) of which only the helm/chest were sliced for encumbrance (got lazy with the pants and never got them sliced.) This was as a 10 point smith.
It worked good for me as a PvE fencer (stop already, it was my last hologrind guess and i never bothered to regrind another combat profession) because the armor actually lasted for a long, long time without having to get repaired. I think the boots are down to 3k of 6k, biceps max. is under 12k now.
Renea,
Tempest Server
AndJusticeForAll
Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:31 pm
#4
My ranger/rifleman's unbuffed hunting suit:
All pieces 80% kinetic 73% electric 64% base 37k cond
Total Suit HAM: 271/245/264
Individual HAMS:
chest 125/38/10
pants 41/98/16
boots 14/23/4
helm 16/10/166
right bracer 15/15/17
left bracer 16/16/15
right bicep 11/12/16
left bicep 16/16/19
gloves 17/17/1
made that with a mixture of 10-20 power shards and triple layer aluminum kinetic layers (2% base 6% kin 2/2/2 ham)
i just made pieces until all got encum sliced... as far as I know this suit is pretty unique...
Made it about 3 months ago when I was still 10-point smith 
havent repaired anything an all pieces are still above 30k cond (thats from being smart and pulling a 62-66% energy psg when i start getting shot at)
havent repaired anything an all pieces are still above 30k cond (thats from being smart and pulling a 62-66% energy psg when i start getting shot at)next project now that a good oridium has spawned on my server is to make a full suit of base slicedRIS layered comp with around 80% resists(currently getting 67-68% base)
Message Edited by AndJusticeForAll on 01-18-2005 10:34 PM
Centauros
Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:29 am
#5
If you disregard resistances completely, you can make Zero HAM Bracers and Biceps fairly easily using RIS Layers, correct? The swing from an RIS Layer to my Kin layer is around 15-20 points. So you would be saving 45 HAM points minimum switching to RIS Layers, then dumping all points into HAM experimentation, you should be able to hit 0 right? Ifnot, definately using NS Shards?
Centauros
Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:54 am
#6
Let me know how that works out, I am gonna do something similiar. I figure you can hit 90% base on all the pieces with HAM in the 250 range. I am only 10 point smith, so I am going to wait until I get 12 first
Andymantium
Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:41 am
#7
Centauros wrote:
If you disregard resistances completely, you can make Zero HAM Bracers and Biceps fairly easily using RIS Layers, correct? The swing from an RIS Layer to my Kin layer is around 15-20 points. So you would be saving 45 HAM points minimum switching to RIS Layers, then dumping all points into HAM experimentation, you should be able to hit 0 right? Ifnot, definately using NS Shards?
I made this when I was a 10-pt AS. I made it with NS layers and shards, and throwing a couple extra points into HAM experimentation. HAM is still dependent on the malleability of your resources though, there's a cap on it just like base and special protection %.
It's not too hard to hit 0/0/0 HAM, but keeping the resists high can get tricky sometimes.
UmmonPrime
Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:51 am
#8
Andymantium wrote:
Centauros wrote:If you disregard resistances completely, you can make Zero HAM Bracers and Biceps fairly easily using RIS Layers, correct? The swing from an RIS Layer to my Kin layer is around 15-20 points. So you would be saving 45 HAM points minimum switching to RIS Layers, then dumping all points into HAM experimentation, you should be able to hit 0 right? Ifnot, definately using NS Shards?
I made this when I was a 10-pt AS. I made it with NS layers and shards, and throwing a couple extra points into HAM experimentation. HAM is still dependent on the malleability of your resources though, there's a cap on it just like base and special protection %.
It's not too hard to hit 0/0/0 HAM, but keeping the resists high can get tricky sometimes.
That's a very nice piece of armor.
CenoKreFey
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:06 am
#9
I've completely ignored everything RIS due to lack of interest, but RIS layers got my attention. How do you acquire the schem? Is it limited use?
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AndJusticeForAll
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:25 am
#10
its part of the RIS quest... you get to make as many as you want assuming you have enough feathers
UmmonPrime
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:48 am
#11
It's the first part of the quest too, so you don't actually have to do the whole quest.
Andymantium
Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:06 pm
#12
Thanks. I wish I hit 4 sockets on it though..
UmmonPrime wrote:
That's a very nice piece of armor.
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