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Thread: Advice wanted (especially Valcyn AS, please look here)

CaileSathinor
Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:44 pm
#1

Ok, I've been having problems with my armor at the moment balancing HAM and base and need help making it better. I've learned all about layers and everything from a friend who sat down and explained to me how to make them better, now I've gotten to segments and wanted to know how good mine are for composite armor.


I did 2 types of Advanced composite segments. The Materials I used were:


Iorov Polysteel Copper: MB 998 OQ 974 SR 794 784 UT

Gnocido Colat Iron: MB 301 OQ 849SR 733 UT 778

Durosiroism Kiirium Steel: MB 65 OQ 914 SR 539 UT 508


The first segment I ended up using 9 points to max base and 1 into encumberance. All great successes.


Stats came out as:

Base 19%

Integrity 345

Health Enc 10

Action Enc 10

Mind Enc 12

Electric 8%


24% Experimental Durability

78% Experimental Quality

21% Experimental Resistance


The second one came out with 6 into enc to max it out (had to make it twice to make sure stats didnt go lower) with all greats, and 4 points into base, with an amazing success.



Stats came out as:

Base 13%

Integrity 564

Health Enc 5

Action Enc 5

Mind Enc 6

Electric 8%


59% Experimental Durability

53% Experimental Quality

21% Experimental Resistance



What doI need to do to make these better, and for Valcyn specific smiths, what resources can I pick up that are better than what I'm using now?


-Caile



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Neiscius
Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:05 pm
#2

OK, you're totally on the right track. What you need to do now is add some layers. Start with kinetic layers, if you have decent resources you will be making 80kin 60 something eff no problem.


When making your kinetic layers, max out the middle bar and put the rest to encumbrance. Add 3 of these layers and make your advanced composite segment just like your first example, max out quality then go to encumbrance.


At that point, you should be able to tell if you need to tweak it a little. (add a little to kinetic value etc)



Hope this makes sense.



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RelicOMO
Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:25 pm
#3

Best resources are Kilew Colat Iron, Quadegougetorine Kiirium, and Iorov Polysteel. Durosiroism Kiirium is second best, no worries there - look for Opica Colat or something similar if you can. Failing that, ask me (Darvell). Doing anything except maxing base resist on a segment is worthless at the moment because of the 4-piece suit bug, because HAM is meaningless, but the idea is good.
justapilgrim
Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:25 pm
#4

yea kilew colat is much much better


if you are maxing base, and it takes 9 points, then wait for an amazing, get some bespin port to help you out, you should get 2 points to dump into HAM instead of just one.


also there are tons of stuff in the final combine that make for better armor, lost of people get the best stuff for their segs, but their layers suck or their final combine isn't good


I have all the resources you will ever need in prosperity (including kilew colat iron). Gilkopine is prob best steel out there for your layers too, pick some up if you didn't get any.



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Veronan
Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:40 pm
#5

i always make a pair of gloves when i change resources to see about where my stats come out.

1. make 3 prototype layers (noting what stats you get).

2. use these to make 1 prototype segment (note stats)

3. Make 1 pair of gloves from the segment and see what kind of scores you get.


as always if you hit an amazing while doing this.... SCHEM IT!!. got back and prototype again



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