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Thread: Help with layers and segments please
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Apeg
Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:30 pm
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I mastered AS a few days ago and am 11pt. I tried tests on crafting layers but i have no clue what stats im going for, what is good, bad and what to experiment on for both layers and segments...any advice please on what to do or aim for?
AriesBH
Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:04 pm
#2
Depends what your after 
Take Composite for instance; say you want 80%kinetic, 75% elec and a ballpark figure of around 67% base.
You would want to craft 3 kinetic armor layers per armor segment. Depending on what resources you are using they'll usually craft before expat around base 2%, kinetic 4%, HAM at about 16 each (just made one now to check :smileywink
So, you could be mistaken into thinking, as I was originally, that to get 80% kinetic you would exp on Resistance as this will bump up the kinetic. however, 3 layers at 4% each will enable you to reach 80% no problem - therefore, exp on the base (quality)- you should be able to get this to 4% (or more if 11 point AS - i'm not) - then stick rest on durability.
You'll end up with 4% base and Kinetic and around 10-14 HAM I'd say.
Then craft your segment using these 3 - make sure all materials have high OQ and SR to get best results.
On segs you'll exp (on quality) upto about about 12% K and 31 - 33% base with your +1 helping to lower the HAM (durability) again.
Then stick these into armor part and experiment on Quality until maxed - don't worry if Kin doesn't reach 80% as you can exp on durability to bump it up by a few % at the end. electricityshould reach 74-77%.
My advice is to craft layers, as above, till you get the best you can then run some through factory - then use these to craft single segments and practice making gloves as these use only one segment (and therefore, do not require factory run).
Hope this helps mate (I'm not even sure this is really what you were asking for!) - I'm certain there are better AS out there but I know what a nightmare it seems at first!!
If in doubt - read the sticky guide to AS - it's excellent... maybe my post should have said just that? 
justapilgrim
Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:50 am
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Apeg wrote:
Perfect! im using some decent resources.....spent 10mil this week stocking up. when i crafted it i heard you should go for getting HAM cost down to around 2-2-2 to 6-6-6 then any remaining points on qaulity. i ended up with 2% base 6-7-6HAM and 7% kin, i think ill make the qaulity you did with the resources i have.
Do you no what resists im looking to get pre slice to reach the 80%+ all over when sliced?
Thanks for help .....5* coming your way
well
if you want high base, don't put a single point into your botom row when crafting, put everything into base 4.xx% and put everything else into lowering the encumberence
you will end up with 69-72% base and is easily sliceable to 90%. I don't know what you need to hit 80% but I believe you need 69% to slice to 90%.
No_joy
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:10 am
#4
Dont forget to make gloves to test your stuff.
Make a unlayered seg - no amazings
Make a glove with that seg - no amazing.
If the glove is 55% base for instance,you need 25 kin to hit 80%.
3x 2/6 2/2/2 layers would give ya61/62 baseloweringthe numberneeded to hit 80%to 19/18 instead of 25.
Yoou get 18 kin from the 3x 6 in the 2/6 layers that adds up to 79%.
Last point in your glove experimentation going into condition (top bar) will prolly pop it to80% kin and 61/62 base that can be sliced to 80% +
If going for 90% post slice 67% base is the minimum. Anything in the 60s will have the potential to slice into the 80%.
Message Edited by No_joy on 02-04-2005 02:17 AM
Apeg
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:14 pm
#5
Perfect! im using some decent resources.....spent 10mil this week stocking up. when i crafted it i heard you should go for getting HAM cost down to around 2-2-2 to 6-6-6 then any remaining points on qaulity. i ended up with 2% base 6-7-6HAM and 7% kin, i think ill make the qaulity you did with the resources i have.
Do you no what resists im looking to get pre slice to reach the 80%+ all over when sliced?
Thanks for help .....5* coming your way
Apeg
Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:58 am
#6
Thanks a lot.....ill have a go at messing with gloves then and see what happens.
ShinjoKazuki
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:06 pm
#7
yes the glove testing helped me alot as well to get used to making armor
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