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Akinoor

Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:23 am

I agree that the low level armors is way to hard to make. My guess is that it worked just fine right after the launch, when SWG was still evolving. Bone & Hide could be obtained from hunting, which the aspiring AS probably did anyway. And the calls for qualityweren't as loud as they are today.But who hunts for large quantities of bone now? Why do that and hope that you can get 5 cpu from a Novice Armorsmith when you can get 70cpu for good wooly or about the same for meat.

If I could get good bone easier, I'd see it as a challenge to create low cost, quality low end armor and sell on the bazaar. Not for the money but for fun and to help the newcomers. I probably will once I get enough money from selling composite to buy +20 experimentationand assembly and may feel safe and happy.

And the"idiots" running around with high HAM costs aren't idiots cause it works. Buffed with mind food/muons in a 90% Base (or even 70%) resist composite IS the best way hunting when it comes both to xp and mission money.

And for the more sophisticated hunter who prefers lower ham unbuffed, Ubese isthe choice. Or even better a encum sliced low ham Kinetic Layered Comp suit. Personally I have most fun when I use Ubese unbuffed. That way I even have to use tactics (warning shot anyone?) when exping.

So yeah, I'll sign a petition to remove at least some of the organics used in Tantel, Chitin and Bone armor.

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MrMud

Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:41 am

#2

oh the days of 10cpu wooly hides...

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Rnok

Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:32 am

#3

In your post you call chitin "Low End Armor" and that is a mistake. One of the hardest things as an armorsmith is being able to sell your customer on what they need, not just what they think they want.

Everyone wants 80% spec prot and 67-68% effect comp on our server and I can not count the credits I have made by helping them realize they may get better results from say high kinetic Ubese or Chitin.. esp when they find out they can wear it w/o buffs and slight stat migration.

Sold a 60% kinetic chitin suit to a gent a couple weeks ago for almost 125k .. I sent him a tell the other day.

He loves it, andhas leveledalmost all the way thru heavy swordsman in that armor.

Something to think about there.

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SaintGadreel

Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:08 am

#4

Its true there are great benefits to using the lower level stuff. The low Ham cost makes regen easier, and makes armor replacement less expensive. I still wouldn't recommend taking a suit of chitin to pvp in, but for PVE stuff yeah that would be great. Still there are those retarded resource needs, and that does make it hard to produce 'low end' armor. Padded may even be worth wearing, but you'd have to find an AS who has high qual Yavin wooly and Lokian leathery, not to mention two other types of hide.

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destrkta

Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:11 am

#5

yeah i make ubese with 64% kinetic 22% base, the few guild members that have taken it off my hands love the stuff.

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UmmonPrime

Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:20 am

#6

I used to make kinetic padded, when my hides were decent. I just hate making armor that takes multiple types of hides. Have to find HQ scaley, wooly, and leather just to make it.

What's the point. Comp offeres better protection and is way easier to make.

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DirthNader

Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:51 am

#7

UmmonPrime wrote:

Have to find HQ scaley, wooly, and leather just to make it.

Not to mention that the wooly and leather need to come from two advanced planets (assuming you're making advanced). The only reason I make padded is because I get those hides from leveling combat skills, and I stumbled across a decent amount of very good scaley hide.

Agreed. A good portion of comp and Ubese's popularity comes from the fact that the other armors are a royal pain to make. I think if people knew how good chitin and padded could be there would be some demand fopr them.

Message Edited by DirthNader on 02-23-2004 07:51 AM

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Maolinn

Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:25 am

#8

I stocked 40 suits of 63% chitin on my vendors last night. I'll be surprised if they last a week.

Chitin is awesome stuff.

Just gotta find a good ranger to do business with.

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DanteTheMagnificent

Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:39 am

#9

Recruiting new players into your guild that are trying to level up scout helps a ton. I had an arrangement to where I bought up good quality starter pistols/rifles/carbines/etc and hand made some 'militia' mabari armorweave and donated it to new players that joined our guild. This helps them get off to a very good start as opposed to trying to go it on their own w/ CDEF crap and no armor. And then the hides/bones they collect along the way while levelling up I offer to buy from them for 5cr/u (help them make some cash along the way, too). Some of them refuse to even take money and just give it to me, since I help them get started.

I end up with some nice sizeable stacks of bones/hides this way now. And since they're getting more advanced and able to hunt larger game, they ask me what type of hides/bones I need and what planet to find it on, what drops it, etc. Quite handy.

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Ryche_Mykola

Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:55 am

#10

I don't even make padded. If I get really good yavinian wooly, I'd use it in Composite or Ubese.

If padded was lower in encumbrance, it would be a pretty decent all-around armor. But since the encumbrance is so high and uses so much wooly and leathery, it costs more money to make than Composite. So our customers are far better off just buying composite.

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DanteTheMagnificent

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:11 am

#11

Oh yeah, and I do agree with the fellow who pointed out that chitin is, in fact, no 'low end' armor.

I usually get 63% kinetic on my advanced chitin, sell it out usually before I can even make it to my vendor to stock it up, and get light enough HAM costs that no stat migration is necessary. I love that stuff.

I used my own adv chitin to mow through to TKM in about 3 days. Never once needed a buff, either. :-)

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BorgTribble

Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:38 pm

#12

Since all the smith on my server make composite I decide to shift over to chitin. Chitin is a truly awesome armor for hunting, with low hams cost and 50% kinetic. OMG big mistake! NO ONE MAKES LOW END ARMOR BECAUSE OF THE ORGANIC COST! Composite being a mineral based armor its extremely easy(and I mean it) to make crates of it. Now try doing that with 3 different hides and bones. It totally sickens me to think that composite is much easier to make then low level chitin. I dont think the devs have ever tried gathering just a small amount of hide to see how costly it is.

For example I pay on average 10cpu per good hide; then on the other hand I can mine minerals at .25 credit cost for composite. Hmmm now you know why composite has flooded the servers. So many idiots running around with the heavy hams costs that they just about fall over. Devs gave us the means to make ham friendly armor, but with high organic cost as the servers have shown its not realistic. End point! why even have chitin ubese tantel if its cheaper/easier to make composite. Something is wrong when you can run 10 factories to make 100 suit of composite at the same time.

Thanks for your time

Laz

BorgTribble

Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:40 pm

#13

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