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Thread: a new Armoursmith looking for help.

LokieEgi
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:34 am
#1

I have a couple of questions. first of all, I would like to be a really good armoursmith. I don't chase the holo. I want to make this fun to do. my first question is last night I crafted enough to move to the first block. Chitin, Tech, layers, PSG's.

Which would you do first? I see some folks say tech, others chitin. some say PSG's. considering that I want to be good at this, what do you recommend getting first?

My second thing is probably going to make some of you cringe. I read about all these Armour enhancements and such. I am a TKM and take nightsisters regularly. I have never looted anything that can be used in armour. Also do we make the enhancements? and if so, when and what tree is that a part of?


I know these are simpleton questions but I want to be accurate and have fun doing it.


any help you guys can give me would help me a great deal.


Lokie

aspiring Armoursmith.



-=Lokie Egi=-(Jedi Gimp)
Master Defender/Enhancer 4-0-0-4/Healer 3-0-2-0/Sabres 0-4-0-4
My templet might not be great, but at least I get beat alot.
meschuster
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:07 am
#2

First, I would say take Techniques first. This gives you the experimentation mods so you have more experimentation points to work with. Especially, if you are going to make armor to earn some credits as you go. Making chitin with only 1 or 2 exp points really won't sell as well than chitin made with up to 7 exp points you get with Techniques IV. If you are just planning on grinding and not selling until you are master or 4/4/4/4 then it really doesn't matter.


Second, as to the enhancements I really shouldn't be the one to answer since I only made master two weeks ago and haven't even tried armor with enhancements. Right now, I'm having too much fun hunting and making advanced Chitin (currently with 50% kinetic because Dant bone sucks right now). I'm avoiding Composite right now until I stock up on decent quality resources and the crafting changes go into effect.





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RonneLykell
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:42 am
#3

In all honesty. I don't think it matters what route you take up the armorsmith tree. I recomend you simply get to the top as fast as possible. Don't worry about making a marketable product until you get there, and even then, the wait can be long.


I made mabari chests all the way up. It took me a week on and off to get there. If money is an issue (shouldn't be since you're fighting Nightsisters), do survey mission loops using the shuttles to build up a cash stash.


Step 1) Start building your resource stash (Never raid these for the grind...you'll regret it later)


A) Figure out what types of armor you want to be able to make (ubese, composite, and PSG'sfor mostl)


B) Make a list of all the specific ingredients you'll need to save up in order to make those


C) Make a comparison chart for reference (I use three ratings to categorize each resource's worth)


1) Overall build quality - (Mall x 3 + OQ x 8 + SR x 3 + UT x 2)


2) Specific Resistance Quality - (OQ + SR)


3) Specific HAM Quality - (OQ + Mall)


* if a resource is top in all three, then the choice should be easy. If not, then you'll need to consider what you're making and what results you want (I generally allow the use of bad HAM quality on ubese since ubese is genarally a lighter armor. In composite, though...HAM is more important)


D) As soon as one of your ingredients hits, start pulling like crazy (800K units is not too much)


Step 2) Make master (Do this simultaneously with step 1, but understand that step 1 is the top priority)


Step 3) Get all your experimentation and assembly tapes (Good luck on this one)


Step 4) At this point, you should have at least 300K of each specific resource you need, and should be able to generate large piles of credits. It took me 5-6 months to get to this point, but now I'm considered one of the better smiths on Naritus.





Ronne Lykell (Naritus)
~ Master Armorsmith (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly, +25 Repair) ~
apyrus\">~ Master Artisan (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly), Master Merchant ~
apyrus\">~ FS Crafting Mastery (4400) ~
~ Vendor WP: Corsica, Corellia (6899, 4551) ~

RonneLykell
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:47 am
#4

Regarding Nightsister loot drops, they are exactly that. You find them in the inventory of dead nightsisters. You will need 3x as many "Nightsister Armor Layers" as you do "Nightsister Armor Shards"...so look aggressively for those and don't worry about the shards so much. Again, I recomend...I would save any you find until you hit master and have resources/tapes to help out.


Don't split a consecutive drop...you need to keep groups of identical serial numbers together, or they're pretty much worthless. the larger the group, the better.



Typical Nightsister Armor Layers:

Base Effectiveness: 3% (I've seen as high as 10%)

Action: -5 (I've seen as high as -9)


Typical Nightsister Armor Shards:

Health: -10 (I've seen -23)

Action: -10 (I've seen -30)

Mind: -10 (I've seen -23)




Ronne Lykell (Naritus)
~ Master Armorsmith (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly, +25 Repair) ~
apyrus\">~ Master Artisan (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly), Master Merchant ~
apyrus\">~ FS Crafting Mastery (4400) ~
~ Vendor WP: Corsica, Corellia (6899, 4551) ~

LokieEgi
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:00 pm
#5

Thank you for the post. it helps alot in all the confusion. I read the guide to armour and armour crafting and got alot of it.

you have answered all of my questions accept do we make the armour enhancements or is it a crossprofession item. I only ask this early in my start so I know who to make friends with<or deals with>.


Thanks again for all the detailed responses. The reason I like this game is because it is so people oriented and so many good people playing it is really a joy.


Thanks again.


Lokie



-=Lokie Egi=-(Jedi Gimp)
Master Defender/Enhancer 4-0-0-4/Healer 3-0-2-0/Sabres 0-4-0-4
My templet might not be great, but at least I get beat alot.
RonneLykell
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:56 pm
#6

Nobody makes the loot components, they are found in the inventory of dead creatures (nightsisters, krayts, etc). Being an armorsmith, I have no combat skills, and thus I depend on others to get them for me. But they are found, not made.



Ronne Lykell (Naritus)
~ Master Armorsmith (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly, +25 Repair) ~
apyrus\">~ Master Artisan (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly), Master Merchant ~
apyrus\">~ FS Crafting Mastery (4400) ~
~ Vendor WP: Corsica, Corellia (6899, 4551) ~

Willimakit
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:48 pm
#7






RonneLykell wrote:

I made mabari chests all the way up. It took me a week on and off to get there. If money is an issue (shouldn't be since you're fighting Nightsisters), do survey mission loops using the shuttles to build up a cash stash.








What do you mean by survey mission loops?
owako
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:16 pm
#8

With the survey missions, you just run back and forth for a while. When I did them I would travel 1030m or so away from the artisan terminal, and survey until I found a concentration above 70% in something. I liked inert petro, as the icon was easy to identify in the mission descriptions. Whichever you use, get two missions for the resource you found a good concentration of, run the 1024 away from the terminal or NPC, or survey, rinse and repeat. Some people use the shuttles to go far enough away, but I just ran, it was faster. I did dual survey/AUK grinding when I did it, just got two missions and practiced crafting while running between the site and the terminal. If you don't want to craft use a mount of vehicle, it goes pretty fast that way. Hope that helps, if not ask and i'll try to be more specific.

Message Edited by owako on 03-14-2004 06:17 PM



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RonneLykell
Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:11 am
#9

Use shuttles on Naboo...


I ran this pattern:


Moenia - Kaadara - Keren - Kaadara - Theed - Moenia


Once I figured it out, I was making 50K an hour. It takes a while to figure out what resources are hot at each shuttle point, but the idea is that as soon as you land, hit survey...whammo...3K-ish...go get the next two missions


It's been a long time since I tried this, though...things may have changed



Ronne Lykell (Naritus)
~ Master Armorsmith (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly, +25 Repair) ~
apyrus\">~ Master Artisan (+25 Exp, +25 Assembly), Master Merchant ~
apyrus\">~ FS Crafting Mastery (4400) ~
~ Vendor WP: Corsica, Corellia (6899, 4551) ~

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