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Thread: Question From a Noob AS...

Giheo
Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:00 pm
#1

Ok, i've managed to play with some composite armor gloves, this is what I came up with:


80% Electricity 80% Kinetic and 54% Base

35455 Condition

79/76/81 HAM


Is this any good?


Would it be better if I where to go with eletricity layers and bring up the base a bit?


Finally, would this sell? If yes, how much do you think it would sell for?


I am very new at AS and just got all the resources together to craft composite armor. I'm on Valcyn and currently there isn't very good AS resource spawning, so i'm stuck with what i've got...at least until I make the big bucks and buy some "uber" resources people are selling for 50+ CPU.


Thank you very much for your opinions and responses to my question.






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_Monroe_
Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:39 pm
#2






Giheo wrote:

Ok, i've managed to play with some composite armor gloves, this is what I came up with:


80% Electricity 80% Kinetic and 54% Base

35455 Condition

79/76/81 HAM


Is this any good?






What does your unlayered comp come out at?


It looks likeyou added 3 layers to this piece. Right?


Find out what your unlayered gloves will be for base. Subract that from 80. Divide by 3. That is what you need the kin+base to be on your layers.


So say your make 50% base unlayered. You need 30% to hit 80% kin (or 10% kin+base in each layer). If you made 3% base, 7% kin layers you would have 80%/59% final. A 4% base, 6% kin would be even better at 80%/62% but you may not be able to do that yet.




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ilponn
Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:03 am
#3

wow that also cleard alot up for me so a free thanks



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Giheo
Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:11 pm
#4






_Monroe_ wrote:





Giheo wrote:

Ok, i've managed to play with some composite armor gloves, this is what I came up with:


80% Electricity 80% Kinetic and 54% Base

35455 Condition

79/76/81 HAM


Is this any good?






What does your unlayered comp come out at?


It looks likeyou added 3 layers to this piece. Right?


Find out what your unlayered gloves will be for base. Subract that from 80. Divide by 3. That is what you need the kin+base to be on your layers.


So say your make 50% base unlayered. You need 30% to hit 80% kin (or 10% kin+base in each layer). If you made 3% base, 7% kin layers you would have 80%/59% final. A 4% base, 6% kin would be even better at 80%/62% but you may not be able to do that yet.







I can hit a 4% base using 8 experiment points on quality, but to further awnser your question, I used 3 kinetic layers at 9% Kinetic and 3% Base.So I guess without layers I would hit 45% Base unlayered, I estimate, with 10 experiment points, I could get 4% base and 6% kinetic on my layers, but that would only put me at 74% Kinetic with 57% Base.


I guess, if i'm understanding this correctly. With my 10 experiment points, and my current ingredients, I could hit one of the following:


80% Kinetic, 54% Base; -or- 74% Kinetic with 57% Base


I'm I getting this right? From what I understand, 80% Kinetic with 60% base is about average, decent composite armor.


Thanks for your help.



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Qece
Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:26 am
#5

With fairly decent resources you can hit 80% Kin easily by not experimenting on the Kinetic resistance on the layer.


What most smiths will do is leave the Kinetic resistance at 4% on the layers and pump most of their points into base resistance on the layers until they hit 4%.


Of course it depends what type of armour you're wishing to make, lo-HAM stuff you'd want to leave the Kinetic resistance where it is and pump a lot of points into the HAM costs on the layers.


Alternatively if you want to get 80% Elec/Kin/Energy or similar then you'd want to get a 12% Kin layer with 2 6% Energy layers. Basically as long as you hit 12% when the 3 layers are totalled then you'll generally hit 80%, test it out on a pair of comp gloves or alternatively get AS Little Helper.



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Giheo
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:22 pm
#6

UPDATE:


Thanks to all the information provided to me by my fellow AS's. I have managed to get my base up to 63% from 54%. I could get it to 66% if I had a little bit better resources, but i'm on the look out for them. Until then i'll have to sell a run of this stuff.


Thank you all for your help, it is much appreciated.



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