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donkei

Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:55 am

Currently I am making 80% Kinetic 80% Energy 9% Stun 70% Base composite, I have seen quite a few smiths making 80% kinetic 80% Energy 80% Acid 7x% Base. My question is this:

What are your preferences on the 80/80 you make?

What 3rd layer do you use and why?

What, if any, input have your customers had in your decision?

Just curious about what smiths from various servers are producing and why

Thanks for any input.

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AndJusticeForAll

Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:40 am

#2

I've made 3 runs of kin/energy/stun layered comp and every last piece sold.

I may make a mark IV when I hit 12 points...

Last run hit 80 kin 80 energy 80 electric 11 stun 67 base. (wow this was heavy though... made as 10-point smith)

I've had requests for kin/blast/stun layered for nightsister hunting, but just havent gotten around to playing with it.

Message Edited by AndJusticeForAll on 12-15-2004 07:40 AM

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UmmonPrime

Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:42 am

#3

Blast.... I've been hearing more about this lately. Maybe it's time to make some.

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DirthNader

Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:27 am

#4

I got a request to make some a few nights ago. Not too tough, considering the only addition to a blast layer over a kinetic layer is a small amount of low-grade ore. Customer only wanted one set though, and it's not worth the factory time / effort for one suit.

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darthbock

Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:35 am

#5

kin/stun/blast is nice for a cheap/ready-to-go NS hunting suit - counters the occasional baton/powerhammer surprise.

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Meplorium

Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:50 pm

#6

The best comp has a base in the low 70s and everything else to lower the HAM, especially the mid. Even a modest slice will usually beat 80%. If you can't hit that 71-72% mark, then the 80/80/80 stuff starts to make sense. Nothing beats a nice 90% suit with moderate HAM costs. Remeber that a 90% suit is half the damage of an 80% suit, while a 70% suit is only 1.5x the damage of an 80% suit. So the risk to pay off ratio is in the favor starting at 70ish% base. Even a light weight, 70ish% base suit is excellent where as an 80% accross the board suit that is very heavy is protective, but otherwise not attractive.

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UmmonPrime

Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:01 pm

#7

DirthNader wrote:

I got a request to make some a few nights ago. Not too tough, considering the only addition to a blast layer over a kinetic layer is a small amount of low-grade ore. Customer only wanted one set though, and it's not worth the factory time / effort for one suit.

I did some expreimeting and end up with the same base stats as kineitc armor. May just go that route from now on.

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donkei

Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:00 am

#8

Meplorium wrote:

The best comp has a base in the low 70s and everything else to lower the HAM, especially the mid. Even a modest slice will usually beat 80%. If you can't hit that 71-72% mark, then the 80/80/80 stuff starts to make sense. Nothing beats a nice 90% suit with moderate HAM costs. Remeber that a 90% suit is half the damage of an 80% suit, while a 70% suit is only 1.5x the damage of an 80% suit. So the risk to pay off ratio is in the favor starting at 70ish% base. Even a light weight, 70ish% base suit is excellent where as an 80% accross the board suit that is very heavy is protective, but otherwise not attractive.

80/80 armor definately is not the BEST composite armor out there. It is however the BEST for people who hunt high end mobs and dont have the time/patience/money to guarantee the slices they want. Any suit that has 80% to the 2+ major damage types in PvE is well worth it simply for the fact that you can pull a droid, pull a new set out of a crate and go without worrying about trying to find a smuggler. In other words, its the lazy mans armor.

The point of this post is to get input into layering for 80/80 not to discuss the merits of 80/80. I like the idea of Kinetic/Stun/Blast armor marketed towards the NS hunters. Guess it's time to play around and see what's what

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darthbock

Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:19 am

#9

My 10stun/80kin/80blast/80elec/71base nightsister bane sold out quickly whenever I stocked it. The lazy/frugal NS hunters love these suits. Ideally, we'd all love a max stun suit sliced to 90 base, but it takes a ton of time and resources to do that. Sure, I make them for myself andmy more exactingcustomers, but most of my customers did not feel like buying the equivalent of 5 suits of armor to get one working ubersuit.

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DirthNader

Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:58 am

#10

UmmonPrime wrote:

I did some expreimeting and end up with the same base stats as kineitc armor. May just go that route from now on.

If you're talking about adding a blast layer, then I say yeah. If you mean replacing kinetic with blast, I'd say no.

Encumbrance sliced 80% kinetic is a lot better than most people give it credit for. When I had a TKM / master pistoleer / rogue alt, I could solo groups of NIghtsisters (like two protectors and three spell weavers) with encumbrance sliced 80% kinetic comp, as long as the elders stayed out of the fight. Just keep a PSG on the toolbar in case one of them pulls out a stun bat and you're as good as gold.

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donkei

Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:55 am

#11

Currently I am making 80% Kinetic 80% Energy 9% Stun 70% Base composite, I have seen quite a few smiths making 80% kinetic 80% Energy 80% Acid 7x% Base. My question is this:

What are your preferences on the 80/80 you make?

What 3rd layer do you use and why?

What, if any, input have your customers had in your decision?

Just curious about what smiths from various servers are producing and why

Thanks for any input.

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