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Thread: Sliced pricing system

zaphb
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:53 pm
#1

Hi guys

So those of you who sell sliced, do you have a system? and if you do can you let me in on it

Im getting a bunch of 80% elec 4% stun sliced and would like some insight in the systems you use

Not interested in prices just the system :-)

That should keep me from not getting the message Ive dealt out alot myself ;-) not a trade forum lol



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Kervee
Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:09 pm
#2

I just made up a list of what certain base sells for, and what certain encumb sells for, and kept it at that.

Calculations to determine the price could get tricky, I'd recommend just making up a list of what you think is fair.


I tried to come up with a system when I read this post... but decided my piece of paper with prices worked easier


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Pyrewolf
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:44 am
#3

I base all my priceson the number of segments used. Keeps things easy to calculate.


Eff slices below 15% and enc sliced below 25%I price the same as unsliced.


25-35% enc slices are priced approximately 15% higher. Enc slices above 35% add ~40% to the price. (This is for armor that is actually useful with an enc slice, ie, 80% kinetic)


Eff slices work a bit differently, and it's where my biggest profit is. Assuming a starting base of 69-71%, under 80% eff slices are priced as unsliced. I use the same brackets as enc slices for 80-83% (+15%) and 84-85% (+~40%). 86-87% adds 70%. 88% is a bit more than double the price of unsliced. 89%, triple. 90% I find I can get ridiculous amounts for, over 5-6 times unsliced (1.5 mil+ for a normally 275k suit). As you can see, my pricing scheme is not at all linear.


All these numbers can and will vary, depending on the particularstats of the armor(this only applies to composite btw; I don't make anything else in sufficient quantity to develop such a pricing system).



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Arem
Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:39 am
#4

I tried to base my sliced Composite pricingon the odds of slicing. I have recorded over 1000 parts of sliced armor and yet the sample size is not good enough to get a solid slice function. One thing is for sure the 35% eff slice is ultra rare


I just sell sliced Composite with high baseand theaim to get 90% base effectiveness. Two Composite variants serve as source for this:

3-Layer Stun MAXbase Composite with 68% base(needs33% base effectiveness slice or better)

3-Layer Electricity MAXbase Compositewith 71% base (needs27% base effectiveness slice or better)


I can only sellthe 'good' sliced pieces. All others are destroyed as those dont sell even not fora quarterof the unsliced counterparts. All enc slices under 40% go into the bin. Eff slices must result at least in 81% baseor thoseare also waste. The remaining 15 results(10eff slices and 5 enc slices) that make it into retail can be listed in a simple table.


The price distribution is based on the slicing distribution and the resulting chanceto get a 90% base effectiveness armor piece.

To determine this value I can share the data I have collected. If the ditribution was linear we would find aprox 20 slices of each out of 1000 for the 50 possible results (20-45 enc and 10-35 eff). I still have not a big enough sample sizeso I grouped results togetherI ampretty sure that the eff/enc ratio is50/50.


From 1000 slices I got

35% eff 0

34,33% eff: 6

32,31% eff: 22

30,29,28% eff: 54

25,26,27% eff: 87


The final probability to get 90%on my Stun MAXbase is 0.6%

The probability for my Electricity MAXbase 90 is 11%


The calculation for the price is taking into account the price of unsliced counterparts, number of Waste, fee for slicing, extra storage cost, etc.

In the end I came up with the following distribution within the 10 resulting slices for the Electricity Type Composite.


90%: 250 kps

89%: 150 kps

88%: 125 kps

87% 100 kps

86%: 75 kps

85%: 62 kps

84%: 50 kps

83%: 40 kps

82%: 35 kps

81%: 30 kps

* kps: kilo credits per segment


A90% chestplate for example costs 1 mil.


Hope this helps.










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