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Thread: Master AS, needing help to make lower ham armor

Silvadeus
Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:50 am
#1

Hey all,


I've ran into a large problem... making armor...


Normally I make 80%Kinetic 63-64% base, and I sell about 50 suits in 3-4 days... problem with this armor is the ham quite literally averages 950... I've been attempting to make a lower HAM but I am unsure how to go about it... how many points do I put into the layers for ham?

To help this is what i have been experimenting...

4%base (exp to 88%) 6%K ham is 15-16


the end result in my glvoes is the normal 80%K 60+% base with 89-88-89 ham ( not sure if that is the exact HAM i might be off by 1 or 2


any help guys? It really sucks as i keep coming out with armor that is so heavy... I've actually started losing alot of my customer base because of the huge amounts of ham that these suits take up....



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Drummerboychris
Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:13 pm
#2






Cadain wrote:


Your layers should be experimented for encumbrance, not resists. My kinetic layers are 2% base, HAM: 1/1/1, and 5-6% kinetic.


Three of these in a segment will produce armor that can make 80% kinetic while still low HAM. The base resist may go down, but this is PvE armor.


Of course, resources play a big factor.







lucky! with very close to my server's best resources, ham caps at 89% which is 1% short of 1/1/1



But he's right, go for low ham, 1 into base, and 6% kinetic. should get what you're looking for




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Andymantium
Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:14 pm
#3






Cadain wrote:



Of course, resources play a big factor.





If you have 12 points, that helps too.



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Sorackles
Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:41 pm
#4

Yeah I don't think you can get 1/1/1 HAM with only 10 points.




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Ail
Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:46 pm
#5






Sorackles wrote:
Yeah I don't think you can get 1/1/1 HAM with only 10 points.








You can get there with 9 pts depending on your resources.





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Silvadeus
Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:34 pm
#6




if i do that thing and get my layers down to 1/1/1 wont that greatly reduce the base and i wont be able to hit 80%Kinetic on my armor though right? Keep in mind im only a 10 pt AS right now





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ShAdOw_00
Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:44 pm
#7

hope ya find waht yer looking for.



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Drummerboychris
Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:24 pm
#8






Silvadeus wrote:



if i do that thing and get my layers down to 1/1/1 wont that greatly reduce the base and i wont be able to hit 80%Kinetic on my armor though right? Keep in mind im only a 10 pt AS right now








true, right now hitting 1/1/1 isn't what you want. you want 2/2/2 or 3/3/3. both of these are attainable with fairly decent resources, and will allow you enough points to hit 80% kinetic. Remember that you are better off spending points on kinetic resist at the layer level then base, as each point is worth more, and will raise your kinetic faster in the end. with my resources i can go 6% kinetic (2 into special) none into base, and the rest into ham, and come out with 80/62. Know your resources and use those 7pt amazings



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Silvadeus
Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:44 pm
#9

aight ill try it...



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Cadain
Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:46 am
#10


Your layers should be experimented for encumbrance, not resists. My kinetic layers are 2% base, HAM: 1/1/1, and 5-6% kinetic.


Three of these in a segment will produce armor that can make 80% kinetic while still low HAM. The base resist may go down, but this is PvE armor.


Of course, resources play a big factor.




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justapilgrim
Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:04 am
#11

easiest way to lower HAM


get 12 exp points, you get two extra xp points in the layers, segs, and final combine


if used to lower HAM, this will end up making a lot lighter armor





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