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Thread: managed to make profit off CU, but I'm not having much fun

Okram2k4
Mon May 02, 2005 4:30 pm
#1

hmm well time for some minor ranting,


I decided to at least push forward with the CU and do what I can, friends where still around and they needed armor, and that's why I still played this game anyway, was for my friends.


I sighed pretty sadly, then focused and went to work to make components the day it went live. Piggy backing my factories (you know where you start component A, then after a lil while you start component Bon another factory that uses component A) so I could get cores out and get some armor made, and sending my hunter alt to bring in a large stack of naboo bristley (w00t got 150k so far, yay for level 80 missions and it's not too bad on my server at the moment, thank god) I managed to get recon and battle armor cores ready and made some armor.


After taking some serious time to think, I decided that mass producing just wasn't gonna do it anymore. Too many armor options, and a lot of people wanting it their way, no point in producing en mass, so I sent out word I was doing custom order only. It had always been my goal some day I'd retire and be like that old sword maker in kill bill where everyone would look you up for the best top of the line stuff, and figured might as well just make custom only, and see what I can do. I never been the top guy on my server, and with the CU exodus, I only had about a couple dozen of heavy customers left. MAde them all armor, made my friends and guildies new armor, made myself and my in game wife some armor, and then... did nothing.


Sure during the first part I made some decent cash, enough to pay for the 3 mill I spent on resources before the CU, though not enough for the 30k faction I had to buy. And well, I started getting bored. Exceptionally boring is how simple and easy it is to craft, even though it takes for god damn ever, every time I max out hte bar piece of cake, even if I don't get all great successes, which I've decided is the only good reason to have 12 points anymore is you can easily cover up any experimentation blemishes.


I feel like I'm now a tailor who has to pay a huge amount for resources. People come to me wanting their look of armor, and they have to pay me a large amount of credits because I have to spend so god damn much on resources. And I feel bad charging people so much, I used to be the cheapest on the server for my quality (80 kin 80 elec 71 base full suits for shade of 210k or 4 pieces for 100k) but now I'm having to charge customers who came to me for value a huge amount of credits. And try to explain to them that they changed the crafting system and it really does cost that much more to produce armor. A lot seem like they plan on implementing TKM into their template since they don't want to pay me a third of a million credits each time they need new armor, and it wears out even more quickly in the CU then before (the same calculation system for armor decay is still in as far as I can tell, which bases armor decay off of amount of damage that goes through the armor and your character takes instead of the amount the armor blocks. And since armor now blocks significantly less damage and much more damage goes through armor decays at a much much higher rate). So either I'm going to bankrupt my customers, or I'm going to bankrupt myself, which is two things I really don't want to do. And 'course I can't even make all armor types since don't have the resources to make assault, and the in spawn resources would make it a waist of money to craft advanced assault.


And so yeah, not having a ton of fun here, not sure how this new system is much of an improvement, and I'm bored of the combat side. Today I'm having a hard time justifying even logging in. Sure I can make some credits, but what am I going to spend those credits on? There's not much left in this game I don't have, there's not much more room for me to grow, and I am starting to have a dieing interest in this profession. The old should I stay or should I go question is bouncing around my head constantly, and to be honest, I am starting to wonder if I really should or not. Many people have told me they thought I would have cancelled both my acounts the day soe canned me, but I'm not like that, I was hoping something could be salvadged out of this game, but lately.... I really dunno. I have built a lot in this game, I've built a city, run a buisness empire, met so many wonderful people, and been on this forums offering my advise to you crazy guys for a long time now, and it's very hard to leave, but today... I am starting to take my steps to doing just that, I still hope SOE can salvage this somehow, but with all my friends leaving in droves... just not much left here.


Sorry for ranting, but lately I've needed to. And the 'answers' to our questions seem to push me even more so to want to quit then stay. Such crap, such lack of alpha testing, so many things that could have been stopped months ago before all this waisted development time if they listened to us from the begining and let us get more involvement in the process. So much potential waisted. I think it may be time to finally decide to put this game down and move on.


-kron out, possibly for a while.



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Cianhydle
Mon May 02, 2005 4:41 pm
#2

All I gots to say is...


/HUG


I feel your pain neighbor. Not much joy in the workshops in Freedom Forge.


Renea,


Iwifia
Mon May 02, 2005 4:42 pm
#3

i know what u mean


on the plus side i went from 5mill to 9.6mill off 600k shock trooper armor lol



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SalaciousDave
Mon May 02, 2005 4:44 pm
#4

I know what you mean. I wrote out my big list of resources I need, which seems bigger now than before I even had any resources pre-CUand then started dropping all my harvesters. But it seems like a futile gesture, there just isn't a good enough reason to do it anymore. Making the armor itself brings no joy. Would have been nice if they would have used all their effort they spent on CU to add content instead, i don't want to quit but I have no idea what to do with myself in the game.

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Iwifia
Mon May 02, 2005 4:57 pm
#5

i agree, i used to love loggin my AS in just to craft cause of how fun it was, now i see just another 1 liner walkin around



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AsternMadkatz
Mon May 02, 2005 5:25 pm
#6

It is so sad....now when I log on, I am either depressed when I boot up my crafting tool, and then it changes to anger cause everything is soooo stupid. I loved crafting, but now...I just don't have any fun. I think i've spent a total of 15 minutes online in the last 3 days...it's become that bad for me. I really don't want to quit, but I can't play a game that I don't enjoy anymore. Sad.





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Moge_Tira_Tru
Mon May 02, 2005 5:30 pm
#7

I miss hand making my armor.
I mainly run Armor to Order service. Now with the need to have Identical Cores I cannot do this. Please please remove the need for Identical Cores. I am no longer having fun crafting. it is an amazing chore and no where near fun.

I dont do huge runs of armor so my Resources needs are not enormous for me like they are for others. I do agree that the need to seriously reduce the resources for at least the final build and cores.

Please make this fun again for us.



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kneelocked
Mon May 02, 2005 7:32 pm
#8


I started to custom orders a year ago. I was burned on all the factory runs back the. But I was a solo crafter back then too, no alts or lot swaps for factories. No small ammount of pride for ataining some of the best armor on my server by myself.



I joined my guild and made armor for them, they get me my hide and bone now, and If I need harvesters I just send out the WP for them and guildies drop them. And like you I had to put a call out for bristley hide on Naboo and got 80k in one night.



I agree with what Okram said. I have a nice collection of things, not alot of credits compared to other AS but Im ok in the cash department. It does stink that with my lvl 54 CL I cant go out and do much solo. And if I get into a group its still the same lack of content there was before the CU.



I know Im at a crossroads here myself. I feel the frustation of being ignored in the CU "alpha test" which was neither 'alpha' or (especially) a 'test'. The guts got ripped out of Armorsmithing making it tedious and mind numbing. Even if feahtered appearance enhancements work and armor loots its still lacking in challange.



Im debating on posting in other crafting profs to see which is the most challenging. Maybe weaponsmith, or chef. But my heart just isnt in it right now. Me and my husband had plans to go to Fanfest but we canceled them when they announced this was going live back in early april.



Ah well....


Message Edited by kneelocked on 05-02-2005 07:33 PM






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egoe
Mon May 02, 2005 7:47 pm
#9

man your post hits how i feel on the head. In a matter of a week, I can no longer craft the way i want to or the way i enjoyed, I feel no need to even try since the results are all so similair.In addition to having to start pretty much over, i just dont enjoy the crafting process post curb. More resources and resource hunting , and factory times..which is what most dont enjoy, less experimentations and thought put into the crafting, which is what we enjoyed the most.In addition My friends are leaving, my server is emptying and my combat toon is just as bored with the bland rehashed level system of combat that is here now.I feel like a child whos favorite toy just smashed into a million pieces, we hope it will be fixed but we know it wont.



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Vastar
Mon May 02, 2005 8:06 pm
#10

I've decied to take a break from Armorsmithing. I picked up a rifle and I'm going to see how that goes but honestly, I just don't know.



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